Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 033-048
Date: Tuesday, November 7, 1972 at 8:21 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-048

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[0:00] V1, West Virginia.
[0:01] Hello.
[0:02] Mr. Haldeman's there.
[0:04] Yeah, hi.
[0:06] Well, I tried to get you, and then I got cold, and he gave me the sort of the rundown.
[0:11] Chuck, they, I'm sure, nothing particularly new.
[0:13] Got everything up to date.
[0:15] They're obviously, you know, running the total landslide type thing.
[0:21] CBS is projecting on the basis of 2% returns at 67.32, which is, yeah.
[0:30] But Louie Nunn's lost, I guess.
[0:34] Well, I wouldn't be sure of that until...
[0:36] They're projecting.
[0:37] Because...
[0:38] They're projecting that Fletch Thompson lost.
[0:40] Fletch Thompson, I know, is gone, yeah.
[0:41] But Nunn, you never know about Kentucky.
[0:44] They're a late return shot.
[0:45] That's right.
[0:46] You might have a call down to him, see if he thinks he's lost.
[0:48] All right.
[0:49] And we sure did everything we could.
[0:52] Thank God we went in there, though.
[0:54] Yeah, right.
[0:55] I mean, we can't get really blamed for losing one.
[0:58] Oh, I like that.
[1:00] Scottville has a chance, they say.
[1:02] Yeah.
[1:02] Which is surprising.
[1:05] Yeah.
[1:07] But everything is holding up, and apparently Ohio is holding up, Illinois is holding up.
[1:12] Well, they've given you Illinois, all the networks, on the basis of just the votes they have.
[1:18] Yeah.
[1:19] They've all run the Illinois projection, and ABC gives it at 55%.
[1:22] 55?
[1:22] Yeah.
[1:25] But I think it's higher than that.
[1:26] Well, sure.
[1:26] That's a projection at 750.
[1:28] The polls haven't even closed.
[1:30] I understood one projection was, I saw one here at 60.
[1:34] Yeah, but that's not their closeout projection.
[1:39] That was the current run.
[1:42] That's right.
[1:48] CBS closed out at 62 on Illinois.
[1:52] What does that mean, closed out?
[1:54] That's what they have.
[1:55] That's what they're running as their projected vote.
[1:58] In other words, they run the stuff through their computer and on the basis of what they've got in.
[2:02] 62.
[2:03] They come out at 62.
[2:05] ABC at 55.
[2:06] Yeah.
[2:07] That's too far apart.
[2:09] Well, the problem is they're projecting too early.
[2:11] They're into this, it really is a shameful operation.
[2:14] Each trying to beat the other.
[2:15] That's right.
[2:16] And on a very invalid basis.
[2:20] But Ohio, they projected at what, 57 now?
[2:23] At least that's what I heard earlier.
[2:26] 58 on NBC and 60 on CBS.
[2:30] Well, that's good.
[2:34] And Tennessee, they're projecting 66, 68, and 71 on CBS.
[2:40] Yeah.
[2:41] CBS is running higher on their projections than the others.
[2:45] They're going for the big win route.
[2:49] They're giving Arch Moore a victory, but we've got a little credit for that.
[2:55] And I think somebody said they gave Ogilvy too.
[2:58] Well, one of them was talking about it, but another one's got him way behind.
[3:03] They've got Walker at 66.
[3:06] That's Chicago, for Christ's sakes, I'm sure.
[3:09] They're in an area where they can't really tell at this point.
[3:13] Illinois projections at this stage are much too early, much too early.
[3:19] Okay.
[3:20] Well, we'll see what happens.
[3:22] Running pretty good so far.
[3:23] All right.
[3:23] Good.
[3:24] We'll keep a running tally on it.
[3:25] All right.
[3:26] Okay.