Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 033-050
Date: Tuesday, November 7, 1972 at 9:14 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-050

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[0:00] Hello.
[0:01] Well, I'll have to postpone until 4.30 tomorrow to leave.
[0:16] Okay, what's the present situation now?
[0:18] Well, you want to run down?
[0:21] Yeah.
[0:22] Just going through it, they've...
[0:24] Everybody's conceded Alabama, obviously.
[0:26] Oh, I'm not interested in the states.
[0:28] I meant the percentages.
[0:30] Well, they haven't—they're still— Oh, they're not getting those.
[0:33] I saw on the television the rundown of the states.
[0:35] Okay.
[0:37] Their percentages are running high.
[0:41] Yeah.
[0:41] What about Connecticut?
[0:44] Has it come in?
[0:45] Yeah, Connecticut, CBS is projecting at sixty percent.
[0:49] That's good, yeah.
[0:52] What's the margin?
[0:53] Like Arkansas, they're projecting at 65.
[0:57] Delaware at 58, which is a little low.
[1:00] Well, it's a tougher state.
[1:02] Florida, one of them's got it at 75 and the other at 69.
[1:06] Georgia at 77.
[1:09] Illinois, they've given to you CBS.
[1:11] Just a second.
[1:24] Yeah, Illinois.
[1:25] Yeah, CBS at 62 percent, ABC much earlier at 55, so there's a variation.
[1:31] Yeah, it's more close to 60 in my opinion.
[1:34] Indiana, 1 at 65, 164, and 167, so it's in that range.
[1:41] Yeah.
[1:41] Kansas, 63 and 69.
[1:45] Ohio?
[1:46] Ohio is...
[1:49] 58 on NBC and 60 on CBS.
[1:54] The interesting one is Pennsylvania.
[1:56] Yeah.
[1:56] 61% on NBC and 62% on CBS.
[1:59] That's great.
[2:00] New York.
[2:01] What's New York?
[2:02] That.
[2:02] No projection on New York yet.
[2:04] I thought they projected it.
[2:05] Somebody said that they, Trisha said they'd conceded it.
[2:08] They have, but they haven't run a projection.
[2:10] At least they don't have one.
[2:11] Yeah.
[2:11] But Pennsylvania is 60.
[2:12] Great.
[2:13] Yeah.
[2:14] And New Jersey was 60, wasn't it?
[2:17] New Jersey, one of them is 62, and the other is 56.
[2:22] Well, that's too far apart, but it still is.
[2:26] Well, they run these early projections.
[2:28] You see, they're running it on 10, 15% of the .
[2:30] Right, just trying to each meet the other.
[2:32] Sure.
[2:32] Tennessee is running 66, 68, 71.
[2:34] Yeah, yeah.
[2:36] Texas, 73% on NBC.
[2:40] Yeah, yeah.
[2:40] Vermont is 70% on .
[2:43] Oklahoma has no projection except that CBS gives it to you, but no figure yet.
[2:51] Yeah, now on the Senate things, the Senate, they're giving it to Sparklin at 60% in Alabama.
[3:00] McClellan, of course, at 62%.
[3:03] Eastland.
[3:04] Oh, yeah, Eastland, 67%.
[3:06] He's not that huge.
[3:09] Yeah, that's still pretty huge.
[3:12] They're giving Griffin, Michigan at 54.
[3:14] They give Michigan to us then, don't they?
[3:17] Yeah, let me see what we've got now.
[3:19] Well, if he's got 54, what the hell have we got up to?
[3:21] 58 they show for us.
[3:23] They do?
[3:24] On Michigan.
[3:24] Yep.
[3:25] That's something.
[3:26] And he says New Jersey with 68.
[3:30] Yeah.
[3:30] What about Scott?
[3:32] Scott and Virginia, they haven't projected yet.
[3:35] Well, what I'd seen earlier indicated he looked pretty good.
[3:37] He does look good.
[3:39] What about course one?
[3:40] Baker won with 62%.
[3:41] Thurmond with 68%.
[3:43] Yeah.
[3:44] What is the situation?
[3:45] Is Nunn gone?
[3:46] Yes.
[3:47] Definitely?
[3:48] There's no way that Kentucky's... And he says he's going to lose by 25,000.
[3:53] Wow.
[3:53] I'm glad we tried it anyway.
[3:55] Of course, they'll say the coattails didn't work, but we gave it everything we had, didn't we?
[4:01] Yep.
[4:01] Right.
[4:02] Brooks won by 68%.
[4:03] Right.
[4:04] Pearson by 71%.
[4:06] What about West Palm?
[4:07] 60%.
[4:08] Powell's running ahead at the moment.
[4:10] They haven't run a projection, though.
[4:11] Yeah, no, that might be a sleeper.
[4:12] He might win it.
[4:14] Fletcher Thompson's lost.
[4:16] I knew that.
[4:17] Even up race, though, 50%.
[4:18] So it was damn close.
[4:21] Is he dead lost, though, for sure?
[4:24] NBC projects him lost, and one of the others projected him lost at 60%, but NBC says 50%, but it's an even race with him.
[4:32] Yeah.
[4:33] Well, let's pray you might have something there.
[4:35] You ought to make somebody, I assume, dental call down there and see what the situation is.
[4:40] Yep.
[4:41] West Powell, or only hope for West Powell and Scott.
[4:44] Anything on Bartlett?
[4:47] Yeah, he's running ahead.
[4:49] But again, no projection yet.
[4:51] Good, good.
[4:54] And well, all in all, there's nothing on Wisconsin yet.
[4:59] No.
[5:01] Well, you can't do it.
[5:02] You can't win Ohio and Illinois and not win Wisconsin.
[5:05] Well, it's Virginia.
[5:06] They've given one at 60 and the other at 58.
[5:08] Yeah, I know.
[5:10] That's good.
[5:11] And Virginia at 70.
[5:13] Boy.
[5:14] And Maryland 50, 62.
[5:18] You know, with these percentages, I think they may go over 60%.
[5:26] I think so.
[5:26] Nationally.
[5:27] They could.
[5:28] Of course, national.
[5:29] Of course, California will pull it down some, but not...
[5:32] While CBS has changed their national prediction now, they predict 66%.
[5:36] That's based... That's their projection for the result, and that's based on...
[5:41] But they don't include any in California yet.
[5:44] No, but they're, you know, they go on the basis of that.
[5:48] That's 16%.
[5:48] NBC was projecting 2 to 1, which is the same.
[5:53] No, NBC was 60 when I heard them, Chancellor.
[5:55] Well, that was at 830, but at 910, they projected a 2 to 1.
[5:59] We may be going over them, the amount, yeah.
[6:03] What about the size of the boat?
[6:05] Brinkley came on and said it's much lower than was anticipated.
[6:10] He said they projected 80 and it's only going to be 76.
[6:13] No, our last thing was that it would be about 87.
[6:17] Good, I hope that proves him wrong.
[6:19] Screw Brinkley again, I hope.
[6:25] Massachusetts.
[6:27] Massachusetts, one of them's giving to him.
[6:30] They've given it to him already?
[6:31] Yeah.
[6:31] NBC.
[6:32] Yeah, no figure.
[6:34] Just a projection that he's won it.
[6:37] Yeah.
[6:38] Well, it's been anticipated.
[6:40] And in a hurry, they give us at 59.
[6:44] Yeah.
[6:45] Yeah.
[6:47] Well, with these figures, the only thing really left now to ask about is California and Oregon.
[6:51] We have outstanding.
[6:53] And Wisconsin.
[6:57] Wisconsin, California, and Oregon.
[6:58] Right.
[6:59] But we should have Wisconsin at this time.
[7:01] It's curious.
[7:03] We don't have anything on that.
[7:05] We haven't run anything on Wisconsin.
[7:06] Washington, we won't get for a while.
[7:09] Of course, none of those.
[7:10] And New York.
[7:13] And New York, well, they'll project that a little later.
[7:18] both the way New Jersey and Connecticut are going.
[7:21] Connecticut 60-40?
[7:21] Connecticut is, you're right, 60 on CBS.
[7:33] So it's... That's fine.
[7:37] I would just hope that some of the, hope that maybe Domenici and Bartlett can pull through.
[7:41] That'll, we're losing none.
[7:44] What about Chafee?
[7:45] Have you heard about that?
[7:46] Nope.
[7:46] Haven't heard about Rhode Island yet.
[7:48] Nope.
[7:49] I would think that some of our boys, the Dent types, could check Rhode Island and make a final check on Georgia, don't you think?
[7:59] Right.
[8:00] And if any of these things, do they have any dope on any of the Senate races in New Jersey?
[8:08] Things like that.
[8:08] Come in.
[8:09] Come in.
[8:09] Come on in.
[8:10] Yeah, the Senate in New Jersey, they've given the case.
[8:12] I knew about that.
[8:13] I met the congressional races in New Jersey and Connecticut.
[8:16] I don't have a congressional rundown.
[8:17] They picked up a couple.
[8:19] I know they picked up two or three districts here and there, but I don't know that.
[8:24] Yeah.
[8:26] Right.
[8:26] All right.
[8:26] Good.
[8:26] Well, why don't you make a check on, have somebody there, one of the teeter types, check with, on Wisconsin.
[8:33] Wisconsin.
[8:34] And then check the Senate race in New Jersey.
[8:36] in New Hampshire in the Senate race.
[8:38] And Colson can do that.
[8:40] He ought to check New Hampshire and he also ought to check Massachusetts and see what the hell the vote is there.
[8:45] OK. And we ought to know about New Hampshire, Powell and Chavey, right?
[8:54] Right.
[8:54] And Dewey Bartlett, right?
[8:57] That's about all the rest there is to know, isn't there?
[9:00] Texas is holding up.
[9:01] The network's playing it straight.
[9:04] Yep.
[9:05] Pretty much so, yeah.
[9:07] I haven't picked up on it.
[9:10] Right, right.
[9:12] Yeah, I would say they are.
[9:13] They're running a lot of interview stuff.
[9:15] They've got Finch and McGregor, you know, all of our crew.
[9:18] Right, right.
[9:18] Good.
[9:19] Okay.
[9:20] We'll check some.