{"conversationCode":"033-056","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":56,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-056","startDateTime":"1972-11-08T06:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-08T06:10:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:00 AM","endDate":"8-Nov-1972","endTime":"1:10 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rizzo, Frank L.;","description":"On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Frank L. Rizzo talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:00 am and 1:10 am. 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Rizzo.\n\n[See Conversation No. 388-4B]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       1972 Election\n            -The President's victory\n                  -Rizzo's work\n            -Pennsylvania\n                  -The President's margin\n                  -Milton J. Shapp\n            -Massachusetts\n                  -Colleges\n            -The President's victory\n                  -Rizzo's reaction\n            -The President's recent statement\n            -The President’s schedule\n                  -Rizzo\n            -George S. McGovern\n                  -Concession statement\n                        -Rizzo's reaction\n                              -Unity\n\f                                             - 63 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                         Conversation No. 33-114 (cont’d)\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["033-056.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rizzo, Frank L."],"prevCode":"033-055","nextCode":"033-057","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":1.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.59,"end":2.19,"text":"Mr. President?"},{"start":2.33,"end":2.89,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.91,"end":4.37,"text":"I have the mayor for you, sir."},{"start":4.39,"end":4.69,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7.14,"end":7.86,"text":"Go ahead, please."},{"start":7.88,"end":8.52,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":8.54,"end":9.28,"text":"Mr. President?"},{"start":9.3,"end":11.85,"text":"I just want to thank you for that great job, Frank."},{"start":12.71,"end":14.71,"text":"You came through and you said you would."},{"start":15.31,"end":17.52,"text":"Mr. President, it was a tremendous victory."},{"start":17.56,"end":18.5,"text":"I'll tell you."},{"start":18.79,"end":19.33,"text":"I'm so proud."},{"start":20.09,"end":26.01,"text":"We're sure glad to have, you know, just to think, Frank, to carry Pennsylvania by that kind of a margin."},{"start":26.11,"end":27.13,"text":"It's terrific."},{"start":27.15,"end":29.17,"text":"They can't find Chap yet."},{"start":29.19,"end":30.34,"text":"Can't find him, huh?"},{"start":30.36,"end":31.3,"text":"Great, great, great."},{"start":31.8,"end":33.46,"text":"I gave him some shots tonight."},{"start":35,"end":38.14,"text":"Looks like about at the present time all we've lost is Massachusetts."},{"start":38.64,"end":39.48,"text":"Exactly right."},{"start":39.98,"end":40.8,"text":"Colleges, I guess."},{"start":41.12,"end":41.87,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":42.21,"end":43.55,"text":"But I was so proud."},{"start":43.59,"end":45.21,"text":"I've never been more happy in my life."},{"start":45.23,"end":47.25,"text":"Well, I'll tell you."},{"start":47.55,"end":50.12,"text":"I was speaking tonight briefly in the Oval Office."},{"start":50.14,"end":53.5,"text":"I was thinking of you and all those people that came through and accounted."},{"start":53.52,"end":58.66,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, we're proud of you, and we're going to try to do a good job for you."},{"start":58.68,"end":59.44,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":59.46,"end":66.13,"text":"And just one of these days, when I get my thoughts collected, we'll sit down, put our feet up,"},{"start":66.11,"end":67.61,"text":"Tell a few lies to each other."},{"start":67.74,"end":69.5,"text":"Right, sir."},{"start":69.52,"end":70.66,"text":"And get some rest, Mr. President."},{"start":70.98,"end":71.24,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":71.26,"end":72.14,"text":"Why do you think I'm a governor?"},{"start":72.8,"end":75.41,"text":"Oh, you know, I gave him a shot tonight."},{"start":75.43,"end":75.53,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":75.55,"end":77.27,"text":"He thought he was vicious tonight."},{"start":77.29,"end":77.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":77.61,"end":78.43,"text":"The way he talked?"},{"start":78.45,"end":78.89,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":78.91,"end":80.48,"text":"And I told the... Yeah."},{"start":80.5,"end":82.02,"text":"I went on the air and told him that."},{"start":82.04,"end":83.62,"text":"He didn't ask for, you know, no unity."},{"start":84.02,"end":84.32,"text":"Nothing."},{"start":84.36,"end":84.64,"text":"I know."},{"start":85.5,"end":85.97,"text":"He was..."},{"start":86.05,"end":87.17,"text":"Unity on his terms."},{"start":87.53,"end":88.73,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":88.75,"end":90.55,"text":"But, sir, you were tremendous."},{"start":90.73,"end":92.8,"text":"Well, anyway, good to talk to you."},{"start":92.84,"end":94.25,"text":"Give my best to Mrs. Rizzo."},{"start":94.37,"end":95.53,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":95.74,"end":95.94,"text":"Bye-bye."},{"start":95.96,"end":97.08,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon called Philadelphia Mayor Frank L. Rizzo to express his gratitude for Rizzo’s support during the 1972 presidential election. 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