{"conversationCode":"033-077","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":77,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-077","startDateTime":"1972-11-08T20:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-08T20:31:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Nov-1972","startTime":"3:30 PM","endDate":"8-Nov-1972","endTime":"3:31 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:31 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-077 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 33-77\n\nDate: November 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:30 pm and 3:31 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 388-14]\n\n       Meeting with President","filename":["033-077.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"033-076","nextCode":"033-078","transcript":[{"start":0.89,"end":1.5,"text":"Chuck."},{"start":1.51,"end":2.58,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.7,"end":6.08,"text":"Just step back in here and I will talk a little bit."},{"start":6.26,"end":6.74,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":6.76,"end":7.85,"text":"Be right there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson coordinate a brief, in-person follow-up meeting to discuss administrative or political matters. The President directs Colson to step into his office immediately to continue their dialogue. This interaction serves as a brief logistical bridge to a more substantive discussion between the two men.","topics":["White House logistics","Charles Colson","Presidential scheduling","Administration strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:22:53.037Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-logistics","charles-colson","presidential-scheduling","administration-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-077.mp3","bytes":223432,"durationSec":9.2,"bitrate":194392,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-077.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-077","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-077","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}