Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 033-101 Date: Saturday, November 18, 1972 at 12:53 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-101 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Uh, hello. [0:02] Dr. Kisner, sir. [0:03] There you are. [0:03] Incidentally, I'm talking to Laird, uh, a couple things. [0:08] He, uh, he's relaxed about Richardson, so I thought that'll work out. [0:13] Oh, good. [0:14] Uh, the second point that, uh, but more important, Laird said that, uh, talked about the amount of stuff we had out there. [0:22] They have 500, for example, uh, [0:26] extra helicopter engines, you know. [0:29] He says, you just can't believe what we've stuffed into the place. [0:34] And I'm just wondering if Laird might be the guy that we could send out there with a message to Garcia. [0:42] No, Laird is a definite possibility. [0:44] I thought that he could— Well, we shouldn't send anybody— No, no, nothing until you finish the agreement. [0:50] Right. [0:50] The agreement is finished. [0:51] Laird goes out. [0:51] Laird wants to cap his career, and he says, [0:54] You know, he can be goddamn tough and stonewall it and say, look, I represent the military. [0:59] I know the Congress. [1:01] Bang. [1:01] That's it. [1:02] Now, either you come along here or we're going to go separate. [1:06] You know, we just might do it. [1:09] Well, we'll think about it. [1:10] But it's a distinct possibility. [1:12] I think Haig should go with him if that happens. [1:14] Oh, by all means. [1:15] By all means. [1:17] But we'll have to see where we... You've got to see what comes out of it. [1:21] Right, but I've thought of him as a possibility. [1:24] Yeah. [1:25] Okay, right.