{"conversationCode":"034-024","tapeNumber":34,"conversationNumber":24,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-034-024","startDateTime":"1972-12-05T19:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-05T19:57:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:56 PM","endDate":"5-Dec-1972","endTime":"2:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 2:56 pm to 2:57 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 034-024 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 34-24\n\nDate: December 5, 1972\nTime: 2:56 pm - 2:57 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked to Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                              -20-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 34-24 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 386-1B]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Forthcoming reception [for California administration officials]\n                  -Timing\n\n       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule\n            -Lucy A. Winchester\n                  -Forthcoming meeting\n                  -Bull’s role","filename":["034-024.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"034-023","nextCode":"034-025","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":2.04,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.06,"end":3.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.25,"end":3.65,"text":"Steve."},{"start":3.73,"end":4.61,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":4.81,"end":9.17,"text":"It would serve my interest much better if I could do this thing earlier there."},{"start":9.37,"end":10.93,"text":"Are they going to gather not until 730?"},{"start":10.95,"end":12.64,"text":"Not until 730, sir."},{"start":14.9,"end":15.9,"text":"Not until 7.30."},{"start":15.94,"end":16.8,"text":"They won't get there then."},{"start":17.16,"end":17.54,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":17.86,"end":18.24,"text":"All right."},{"start":18.26,"end":18.52,"text":"Fine."},{"start":18.7,"end":19.41,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":19.47,"end":20.73,"text":"How are you getting along with Lucy?"},{"start":20.75,"end":21.41,"text":"Everything fine?"},{"start":22.15,"end":23.69,"text":"Everything is fine with Lucy, yes, sir."},{"start":23.71,"end":24.03,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":24.05,"end":26.08,"text":"She's going to be speaking with the First Lady."},{"start":26.1,"end":26.22,"text":"Fine."},{"start":26.46,"end":31.11,"text":"And you're to be the contact on these things, and you're to be the little smoothie, okay?"},{"start":31.13,"end":31.45,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":31.47,"end":32.21,"text":"Fine."},{"start":32.23,"end":33.31,"text":"You know how to do that, don't you?"},{"start":33.33,"end":33.69,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":33.71,"end":36.2,"text":"I think so."},{"start":36.22,"end":36.31,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the scheduling logistics for an upcoming reception involving California administration officials, ultimately confirming the start time. The President also inquired about Bull's ongoing coordination with Lucy Winchester regarding her scheduled meeting with First Lady Pat Nixon. Nixon instructed Bull to maintain his role as the primary point of contact and to manage the interpersonal dynamics of these arrangements smoothly.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Pat Nixon","White House administration","Stephen B. Bull","Lucy Winchester"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:28:33.119Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","pat-nixon","white-house-administration","stephen-b-bull","lucy-winchester"],"audioDurationSec":42,"audioFiles":[{"file":"034-024.mp3","bytes":1012105,"durationSec":42.05,"bitrate":192537,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:41.140Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/034-024.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/034-024","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/34/conversation-034-024","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}