{"conversationCode":"034-065","tapeNumber":34,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-034-065","startDateTime":"1972-12-13T21:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-13T21:48:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Dec-1972","startTime":"4:47 PM","endDate":"13-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Friedman, Milton;","description":"On December 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Milton Friedman talked on the telephone from 4:47 pm to 4:48 pm. 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(President)","Friedman, Milton"],"prevCode":"034-064","nextCode":"034-066","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":1.25,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.34,"end":1.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.47,"end":3.66,"text":"We have reached Professor Friedman and he was in the hotel."},{"start":3.68,"end":4.74,"text":"He hadn't checked into the hospital."},{"start":4.86,"end":5.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.22,"end":5.32,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.67,"end":5.79,"text":"Okay."},{"start":5.81,"end":8.28,"text":"There you are."},{"start":8.3,"end":8.42,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8.84,"end":8.96,"text":"Hello."},{"start":9.26,"end":9.76,"text":"Milton?"},{"start":9.8,"end":10.52,"text":"Yes."},{"start":10.54,"end":14.99,"text":"I had just learned from George Schultz that you were going up to Mayo for an operation."},{"start":15.65,"end":17.69,"text":"And I wanted you to know we just wish you the best."},{"start":17.77,"end":20.54,"text":"And when I said, what are they operating on?"},{"start":20.58,"end":21.88,"text":"I said, you're operating on his heart."},{"start":21.9,"end":23.36,"text":"I said, fine, that's okay."},{"start":23.4,"end":24.98,"text":"I said, just don't operate on your brain."},{"start":26.38,"end":28.05,"text":"So, because we need you."},{"start":28.07,"end":30.01,"text":"Well, that's very thoughtful and kind of you."},{"start":30.05,"end":34.25,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, I know these things must be quite an experience to go through."},{"start":34.33,"end":38.24,"text":"But they told me they're the best in the world up there and that..."},{"start":38.22,"end":43.15,"text":"And also, you're a very tough fellow, you know."},{"start":43.33,"end":45.41,"text":"I believe that."},{"start":45.43,"end":45.73,"text":"Right."},{"start":46.23,"end":53.42,"text":"And I just wish you the very best, and we'll be expecting to see you back with a good heart and the same brain."},{"start":53.92,"end":57.07,"text":"I only hope they'll take as good care of me as you've been taking of the country."},{"start":57.67,"end":58.11,"text":"Okay."},{"start":58.13,"end":59.65,"text":"In case we'll be in fine shape."},{"start":59.69,"end":60.81,"text":"Well, that's very kind of you."},{"start":61.49,"end":62.72,"text":"And good to talk to you."},{"start":62.9,"end":65.14,"text":"Thank you very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon telephoned economist Milton Friedman to offer his personal best wishes ahead of Friedman’s upcoming heart surgery at the Mayo Clinic. Informed of the procedure by George Shultz, Nixon expressed his high regard for Friedman’s intellect and importance to the nation. The brief exchange focused on morale and well-wishes, with Nixon encouraging a swift recovery.","topics":["Milton Friedman","George P. 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