{"conversationCode":"034-133","tapeNumber":34,"conversationNumber":133,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-034-133","startDateTime":"1972-12-20T00:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-20T00:41:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Dec-1972","startTime":"7:41 PM","endDate":"19-Dec-1972","endTime":"7:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On December 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:41 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 034-133 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 34-133\n\nDate: December 19, 1972\nTime: 7:41 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n       Requested call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n            -Haldeman’s location\n                  -Washington National Cathedral\n                         -Jo Anne (Horton) Haldeman\n            -Requested for a call to [David] Kenneth Rush","filename":["034-133.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"034-132","nextCode":"034-134","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":2.74,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.18,"end":6.16,"text":"Mr. President, Mr. Haldeman's out until about 9.30."},{"start":6.28,"end":9.63,"text":"He went into the Washington Cathedral, he and the missus."},{"start":10.47,"end":11.17,"text":"Should I leave word?"},{"start":11.23,"end":24.85,"text":"No, but find out where... Hello, Mr... Get a hold of Mr."},{"start":26.41,"end":28.11,"text":"Undersecretary of Defense."},{"start":29.16,"end":30.92,"text":"You know who that is?"},{"start":31.84,"end":33.39,"text":"I'll find out, sir."},{"start":33.43,"end":35.8,"text":"The Undersecretary of Defense, Mr."},{"start":35.84,"end":36.18,"text":"Rush."},{"start":36.54,"end":36.94,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":37.12,"end":40.03,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon attempted to reach Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman, who was unavailable while attending an event at the Washington National Cathedral. Upon learning of the delay, the President redirected the operator to initiate a call to Undersecretary of Defense Kenneth Rush. The conversation reflects Nixon’s efforts to conduct official business regarding the Department of Defense during the evening hours.","topics":["H. R. Haldeman","Kenneth Rush","Department of Defense","Presidential communication","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:38:46.886Z"},"topicSlugs":["h-r-haldeman","kenneth-rush","department-of-defense","presidential-communication","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":45,"audioFiles":[{"file":"034-133.mp3","bytes":1084186,"durationSec":45.04,"bitrate":192573,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/034-133.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/034-133","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/34/conversation-034-133","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}