{"conversationCode":"034-144","tapeNumber":34,"conversationNumber":144,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-034-144","startDateTime":"1972-12-20T17:49:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-20T17:50:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Dec-1972","startTime":"12:49 PM","endDate":"20-Dec-1972","endTime":"12:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 12:49 pm to 12:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 034-144 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 34-144\n\nDate: December 20, 1972\nTime: 12:49 pm - 12:50 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 392-9D]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Edward V. Jones\n                  -[Nella and Maria Balling]\n                  -Gifts\n            -Saul Pett\n                  -Oval Office","filename":["034-144.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"034-143","nextCode":"034-145","transcript":[{"start":1.26,"end":1.64,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":1.72,"end":3.15,"text":"We'll have to change that."},{"start":3.27,"end":12,"text":"I'll be at the Oval Office at 2.15 to see these, Mr. Jones and his grandchildren, and we'll have gifts for them."},{"start":12.5,"end":13.42,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":13.44,"end":23.49,"text":"And then have this Saul Petter, whatever his name is, have him over there in the Oval Office, and I'll see him about 3 o'clock in the Oval Office."},{"start":24.21,"end":24.57,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":24.59,"end":25.7,"text":"We'll just do everything here then?"},{"start":26.96,"end":27.04,"text":"Yes."},{"start":27.06,"end":30.56,"text":"I'll see Saul, whatever his name is, at 3 o'clock in the Oval Office."},{"start":30.64,"end":31.45,"text":"Okay."},{"start":31.47,"end":32.12,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":33.31,"end":33.4,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon coordinated his afternoon schedule with Stephen B. Bull to accommodate several appointments in the Oval Office. Nixon finalized plans to meet with Edward V. Jones and his grandchildren to present them with gifts. Additionally, he scheduled an afternoon meeting with journalist Saul Pett to take place at 3:00 p.m.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Oval Office meetings","Edward V. Jones","Saul Pett","White House protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:39:47.214Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","oval-office-meetings","edward-v-jones","saul-pett","white-house-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"034-144.mp3","bytes":862274,"durationSec":35.81,"bitrate":192615,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/034-144.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/034-144","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/34/conversation-034-144","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}