{"conversationCode":"035-023","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-023","startDateTime":"1972-12-28T16:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-28T16:08:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Dec-1972","startTime":"11:08 AM","endDate":"28-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:08 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On December 28, 1972, the White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 11:08 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-023 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-23\n\nDate: December 28, 1972\nTime: 11:08 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 380-3]\n\n       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule\n            -Business appointments","filename":["035-023.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"035-022","nextCode":"035-024","transcript":[{"start":1.03,"end":5.64,"text":"Mr. President, I've been ringing the bells for Mrs. Jackson, but she has some business appointments."},{"start":5.66,"end":6.64,"text":"She just doesn't answer."},{"start":7.84,"end":8.02,"text":"What?"},{"start":8.24,"end":10.67,"text":"She has some business appointments."},{"start":10.69,"end":11.15,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":11.29,"end":11.47,"text":"Fine."},{"start":11.49,"end":13.02,"text":"Well, just whenever it's convenient."},{"start":13.04,"end":13.34,"text":"All right."},{"start":13.42,"end":13.94,"text":"Fine, Mr. President."},{"start":13.96,"end":14.26,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":14.36,"end":14.64,"text":"All right."},{"start":14.66,"end":15.22,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and the White House operator discuss the inability to reach Mrs. Jackson due to her conflicting business appointments. The President acknowledges the situation and instructs the operator to attempt the call again whenever it becomes convenient. No further action or substantive policy decisions occur during this brief exchange.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Scheduling","White House operations","Communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:42:46.191Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","scheduling","white-house-operations","communication"],"audioDurationSec":21,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-023.mp3","bytes":502750,"durationSec":20.81,"bitrate":193241,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-023.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-023","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-023","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}