{"conversationCode":"035-033","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-033","startDateTime":"1972-12-28T20:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-28T20:36:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Dec-1972","startTime":"3:35 PM","endDate":"28-Dec-1972","endTime":"3:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:35 pm to 3:36 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon\n                              -Recent conversation with the President\n                -Bull’s forthcoming telephone call to Price\n                -Helicopter\n                -Lodgings for Price\n                       -Aspen Lodge\n\f                                             -35-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 35-33 (cont’d)\n\n                        -Birch, Dogwood Lodges","filename":["035-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"035-032","nextCode":"035-034","transcript":[{"start":0.96,"end":2.38,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.08,"end":11.85,"text":"Steve, I had talked to Ray Price earlier and told him that if he wanted to work up at Camp David over the weekend, he could."},{"start":11.87,"end":15.29,"text":"Now we're leaving at 4.30, and you can give him a call."},{"start":15.85,"end":17.52,"text":"He doesn't need to go today."},{"start":17.54,"end":27.48,"text":"He can go tomorrow if he wants, but if he wants to go, he could go up with us on the 4.30 helicopter or tomorrow on the carrier."},{"start":27.96,"end":28.43,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":28.45,"end":28.81,"text":"Fine."},{"start":29.12,"end":32.01,"text":"Incidentally, is Mrs. Nixon prized?"},{"start":32.09,"end":33.23,"text":"Yes."},{"start":33.25,"end":33.89,"text":"I've talked to her."},{"start":34.65,"end":36.13,"text":"She's going to be ready at 4.30."},{"start":36.83,"end":46.05,"text":"I'll call Ray Price, and he can say he can go at 4.30 today, or there'll be a helicopter, I assume, sometime, and he can come on that."},{"start":46.93,"end":54.34,"text":"Either way, if he does go, put him over in one of the new, not in Aspen or..."},{"start":56.95,"end":60.94,"text":"No, no, not in Birch or Dogwood, but one of the other new ones, you know."},{"start":61.41,"end":62.22,"text":"All right, so you're fine."},{"start":62.24,"end":63.68,"text":"Yeah, so he can have one of those."},{"start":63.92,"end":66.86,"text":"There are two other new ones, aren't there?"},{"start":66.88,"end":79.6,"text":"I'm not sure whether they've completed the second one, but I put him in one that he's got because he has to work, you know, and I'd have no objection."},{"start":79.62,"end":86.16,"text":"It's better to keep Aspen, keep Birch and Dogwood."},{"start":87.19,"end":88.03,"text":"He can have the other."},{"start":88.14,"end":89.62,"text":"He can have the one that is completed."},{"start":89.68,"end":91.39,"text":"Let him stay on that if he wants."},{"start":91.41,"end":91.72,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":91.73,"end":92.46,"text":"Since he has to work."},{"start":92.88,"end":92.98,"text":"Okay?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate travel and lodging arrangements for speechwriter Raymond K. Price, Jr. at Camp David. Nixon offered Price the option to travel via the presidential helicopter or a subsequent carrier, provided he utilized one of the newer lodges rather than Aspen, Birch, or Dogwood. Additionally, Bull confirmed that First Lady Pat Nixon was prepared for the scheduled departure.","topics":["Camp David","Raymond K. 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