{"conversationCode":"035-037","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-037","startDateTime":"1972-12-28T21:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-28T21:17:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Dec-1972","startTime":"4:15 PM","endDate":"28-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On December 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:15 pm and 4:17 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-037 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-37\n\nDate: December 28, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:15 pm and 4:17 pm\n\f                                               -40-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 35-37 (cont’d)\n\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\n       Request for a call to Stephen B. Bull","filename":["035-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"035-036","nextCode":"035-038","transcript":[{"start":1.01,"end":3.67,"text":"Mrs. Nixon, please."},{"start":3.71,"end":5.58,"text":"I mean, no, no, Steve Ball, please."},{"start":5.6,"end":5.8,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an outgoing call to his aide, Stephen B. Bull. The President initially misidentified the recipient as the First Lady before correcting himself to specify Bull. This brief administrative exchange served solely to facilitate a direct line of communication between the President and his staff.","topics":["Stephen B. Bull","White House operations","Presidential communications","Administrative request"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:44:03.658Z"},"topicSlugs":["stephen-b-bull","white-house-operations","presidential-communications","administrative-request"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-037.mp3","bytes":325368,"durationSec":13.41,"bitrate":194056,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:41.446Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-037.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-037","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-037","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}