{"conversationCode":"035-062","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":62,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-062","startDateTime":"1973-01-02T20:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-02T20:11:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jan-1973","startTime":"3:10 PM","endDate":"2-Jan-1973","endTime":"3:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:10 pm to 3:11 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-062 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-62\n\nDate: January 2, 1973\nTime: 3:10 pm - 3:11 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 393-1D]\n\n       Harry S. Truman's memorial service\n            -Attendance\n                  -Bess (Wallace) Truman\n                  -Clifton V. Daniel\n                  -Margaret Truman Daniel\n                  -Mrs. Truman","filename":["035-062.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"035-061","nextCode":"035-063","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":0.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":0.87,"end":1.49,"text":"Yes, sir, Steve."},{"start":1.55,"end":7.34,"text":"Is it definite, Steve, that the Trumans are not coming to this service?"},{"start":7.71,"end":9.51,"text":"It was tentative, Mr. President."},{"start":9.55,"end":11.65,"text":"Well, why don't you find out and get it definite right away?"},{"start":11.81,"end":15.46,"text":"Mrs. Truman, at the last reading, which was this morning, was not coming."},{"start":16.1,"end":17.8,"text":"And the Daniels were coming."},{"start":18.75,"end":19.41,"text":"Are they coming?"},{"start":19.43,"end":19.75,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":20.09,"end":20.65,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":20.89,"end":21.17,"text":"Okay."},{"start":21.43,"end":22.57,"text":"Mrs. Truman is not coming."},{"start":22.59,"end":22.83,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":23.03,"end":23.31,"text":"Fine."},{"start":23.33,"end":24.22,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Stephen B. Bull to clarify the attendance of the Truman family at the upcoming memorial service for former President Harry S. Truman. Bull confirmed that while Bess Truman would not be attending, Margaret Truman Daniel and Clifton Daniel were planning to participate. The President directed Bull to finalize the confirmation of these attendance plans immediately.","topics":["Harry S. Truman","Memorial service","Bess Truman","White House logistics","Margaret Truman Daniel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:46:21.476Z"},"topicSlugs":["harry-s-truman","memorial-service","bess-truman","white-house-logistics","margaret-truman-daniel"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-062.mp3","bytes":730973,"durationSec":30.32,"bitrate":192868,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-062.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-062","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-062","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}