{"conversationCode":"035-084","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":84,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-084","startDateTime":"1973-01-04T14:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-04T14:04:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jan-1973","startTime":"9:03 AM","endDate":"4-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Martin, Paul L.;","description":"On January 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Paul L. Martin talked on the telephone from 9:03 am to 9:04 am. 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Martin.\n\n[See Conversation No. 833-10A]\n\n       Martin's health\n            -Best wishes\n\n       Reading\n\n       1960 election\n            -Martin visits to California, Hawaii\n\n       Martin family's support of the President\n\n       Martin's politics\n            -Georgetown\n\n       Best wishes","filename":["035-084.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Martin, Paul L."],"prevCode":"035-083","nextCode":"035-085","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":0.83,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":0.85,"end":2.59,"text":"Mr. Paul Martin, sir."},{"start":2.71,"end":2.83,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":3.32,"end":5.34,"text":"Good morning, Mr. President."},{"start":5.5,"end":6.41,"text":"Paul, I understand."},{"start":6.65,"end":11.15,"text":"I was very sorry to hear that you're going to go in the hospital to have a little operation on your eyes."},{"start":11.75,"end":14.54,"text":"Well, yeah, I'm just getting older."},{"start":14.55,"end":16.3,"text":"Oh, the main thing, they're not going to work on your brain."},{"start":16.92,"end":19.3,"text":"No, that's... That's all right."},{"start":19.38,"end":21.9,"text":"Well, just as long as you've got that, you're fine."},{"start":21.94,"end":29.13,"text":"Well, just I want you to know we're thinking about you and that I've seen a lot of guys go through this and they come up and they..."},{"start":29.15,"end":31.87,"text":"The trouble is we all read a hell of a lot more than we ought to anyway, you know?"},{"start":32.48,"end":32.76,"text":"Well..."},{"start":32.73,"end":34.86,"text":"So maybe you oughtn't to have the operation."},{"start":34.9,"end":38.76,"text":"I know, but you have to do an awful lot of work."},{"start":38.78,"end":39,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":39.02,"end":39.44,"text":"So do you."},{"start":40.37,"end":41.21,"text":"Well, anyway, fine."},{"start":41.63,"end":55.06,"text":"Gosh, I was thinking back, matter of fact, when I heard this and realized how time had passed that after the 60 elections, you were one of the few that, you know, I remember you came out to, I didn't get to see you, but you came out to lift me up in California and"},{"start":55.47,"end":58.85,"text":"Hawaii and other places, and I'm most grateful."},{"start":58.9,"end":63.33,"text":"But believe me, we're sure pulling for you, and don't let it worry you."},{"start":63.35,"end":64.27,"text":"Don't let it get you down."},{"start":64.81,"end":69.85,"text":"Well, that's very thoughtful of you, and I want you to know that my whole family..."},{"start":70.81,"end":76.73,"text":"and staunch rooters for you and a selfish heiress because you think you run the country good."},{"start":76.75,"end":77.72,"text":"All right."},{"start":77.75,"end":82.28,"text":"You're not as liberal, an all-out liberal now, are you?"},{"start":82.3,"end":87.13,"text":"I hope they tell me they've been brainwashing you down at the Georgetown cocktail parties and everything."},{"start":87.15,"end":90.45,"text":"I think I'm a charter member of the Fascist and Bigots Club."},{"start":91.27,"end":93.1,"text":"Ah, okay."},{"start":93.12,"end":94.74,"text":"Give my best to your family, Paul."},{"start":94.76,"end":95.14,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":95.16,"end":95.86,"text":"Bye, thank you."},{"start":95.94,"end":97.3,"text":"Very thoughtful."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Paul L. Martin to offer personal well-wishes ahead of Martin’s upcoming eye surgery. The conversation served as a brief gesture of support, with Nixon reflecting on Martin’s loyalty and assistance during the 1960 election campaign. The two also engaged in lighthearted banter regarding political affiliations and the influence of Georgetown social circles.","topics":["Personal well-wishes","1960 election","Political loyalty","Medical care","Georgetown politics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:48:27.637Z"},"topicSlugs":["personal-well-wishes","1960-election","political-loyalty","medical-care","georgetown-politics"],"audioDurationSec":102,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-084.mp3","bytes":2453801,"durationSec":102.11,"bitrate":192253,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-084.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-084","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-084","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}