{"conversationCode":"035-091","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":91,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-091","startDateTime":"1973-01-05T17:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-05T17:36:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Jan-1973","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"5-Jan-1973","endTime":"12:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Colson, Charles W.; White House operator; Holm, Holly;","description":"On January 5, 1973, Charles W. Colson, White House operator, and Holly Holm talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-091 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-91\n\nDate: January 5, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:36 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nCharles W. Colson talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 394-3A]\n\n       Request for a call Colson's office\n\nColson talked with Holly Holm at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:36 pm.\n\n       Colson's instructions\n            -Transcript of the President's remarks to bipartisan leadership meeting\n            -Ronald L. Ziegler's briefing transcript\n            -Instructions for John A. Scali regarding Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] reports\n                   -White House approval\n                   -Discretion\n\f                                               -89-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                         (rev. Oct.-07)","filename":["035-091.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Colson, Charles W.","White House operator","Holm, Holly","Colson, Charles W.","White House operator","Holm, Holly"],"prevCode":"035-090","nextCode":"035-092","transcript":[{"start":7.49,"end":11.62,"text":"Mr. Carlson, could I have my office, please?"},{"start":11.64,"end":14.72,"text":"Surely."},{"start":14.74,"end":14.9,"text":"Thanks."},{"start":14.92,"end":15.78,"text":"Mr. Carlson's office."},{"start":15.8,"end":16.12,"text":"Callie?"},{"start":16.4,"end":16.8,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.82,"end":22.95,"text":"I need for you to get for me as soon as possible a transcript of the President's remarks this morning before the bipartisan leaders."},{"start":23.75,"end":25.01,"text":"Should I mention the press office, sir?"},{"start":25.03,"end":26.66,"text":"I don't know how you do that, but get it."},{"start":26.68,"end":26.78,"text":"Okay."},{"start":26.8,"end":31.22,"text":"Secondly, Ziegler's briefing transcript following the bipartisan leaders."},{"start":31.26,"end":31.82,"text":"I must have."},{"start":32.91,"end":33.01,"text":"Okay."},{"start":33.02,"end":35.49,"text":"Thirdly, call John Scali, reach him, and say that"},{"start":36.41,"end":48.47,"text":"complete green light from in here to do what he proposed to do on the cia reports and do it discreetly tell him but he has a green light okay all right fine"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Charles W. Colson contacted his office and Holly Holm to secure transcripts of the President's remarks and Ronald Ziegler's press briefing regarding a bipartisan leadership meeting. Additionally, he instructed Holm to relay authorization to John A. Scali concerning the handling of CIA reports. This directive emphasized that Scali had a \"green light\" to proceed with his proposal while maintaining strict discretion.","topics":["Bipartisan leadership meeting","Ronald L. Ziegler","John A. Scali","CIA reports","White House press office"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:49:06.649Z"},"topicSlugs":["bipartisan-leadership-meeting","ronald-l-ziegler","john-a-scali","cia-reports","white-house-press-office"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-091.mp3","bytes":1313446,"durationSec":54.57,"bitrate":192540,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-091.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-091","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-091","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}