Nixon phone call with Bull on Wage and price controls and Edward Heath

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Yeah.

Hi, Steve.

Setting up things tomorrow, if you could, and don't interfere if he has a committee or anything.

I'd like to get George Schultz in at 10 o'clock with John Ehrlichman on wage price controls.

All right, sir.

And then I want these pulled out, too, so that we can get it.

I'd like to have, and then just list Ken Cole alone.

list him with Ehrlich Manor.

He'd be coming alone.

You recall Cole at 10 30.

All right, sir.

We're trying to sort of build up on it.

Fred Malek to be listed alone on the schedule, except with Malek.

Cole is to come in alone.

Malek should come in with Haldeman to go over a few appointments.

Would you like that at 11 o'clock, sir?

But Malek should be listed, as I said, alone so that he could, it looks like, and you can figure him for a half hour.

Roy Ash should be listed at 1130.

And then Roy Ash should drop in with ..

But have Haldeman and Ehrlichman come in with him.

Let's see.

Three of them had come in at 11.30.

All right, sir.

Okay, but just have him listed on the schedule.

So if you could get those out as... A photograph of the Schultz-Ehrlichman meeting?

One we'll have a photograph of, yes.

No.

Yes, yes, that's right.

Schultz and Ehrlichman.

And you can tell... You might get a hold of John Ehrlichman and see if maybe we shouldn't have Stein also at that.

So...

the visibility of being in such a meeting on wage price controls.

Fine, and we can announce the intention of the meeting.

Yes, ask John Ehrlichman what he wants to put out.

My view is yes, that it's about where to discuss wage price controls.

All right, sir.

Let John Ehrlichman determine what should be put out.

All right, sir.

This afternoon, you'll want to see Fran Lewin and Helen Thomas in the Oval Office or the EOB.

I just talked to...

I think they're going to do it at the EOB.

Oh, all right, sir, fine.

Ron's got it under control, and he'll know as soon as I'm, you know, as we get closer to the time.

You don't need to do anything about it, because he'll just bring them over if I'm here.

All right, sir, fine.

So you're all set there?

Yes, sir.

And incidentally, on the Heath thing, it's really definite.

I think it's much better.

I'd like to have him on a formal basis in the White House,

And for the formal dinner, et cetera, see?

Yes.

And I want him to go up to Camp David the following morning, whenever his convenience will allow, so that he can sort of move around.

And then you'll?

And I'll join him in the afternoon there for another meeting, see?

And for an informal dinner.

All right.

On that, I do not want a hell of a lot of people.

I'll have to check it out.

If he brings an objection to the ambassador, I don't want any opposite numbers on our side.

All right.

A passenger can come.

There are opposite numbers on our side.

I don't want any State Department people or anything of that sort.

Unless, I suppose...

No, damn it, if you have Annenberg here, that'll pose a real problem.

Well, if he's here, do you know whether he's coming over with him or not?

I don't know at this time, Mr. President.

I'll have to check with NSI.

You'll have to play it very carefully, but I have changed that whole thing on any of these state people.

We have social functions.

We do not have to have Americans for every foreigner.

I'm just going to limit it totally to one person or two at the very, very most on our side.

And we'll just have very small dinners, then?

No, but you see, the foreigners may have more.

Maybe Heath's got a...

They want to bring his secretary for...

I don't know who the hell he's bringing with him, but he may want to bring Trent to something or other, Bert Trent, or...

But we'll have to see, have to feel out what he would like to go to Camp David with him, who he would like to have up there with him.

He can have as many as he wants.

And if he's got four people, and we'll invite Heath and all of his four to dinner, although Heath and I will...

have a meeting probably alone or with Kissinger and Bertrand.

But on our side of the table, I will only have Kissinger.

There's only one exception to that.

If he brings a cabinet officer, brings him up there like an alec hume, then I would have to bring Rogers.

dinner too for that but it's only when i can then officer on the other hand well that that just about covers it i'd like to do it the second day now if this doesn't work out if the british would prefer to camp day but the first day where i'll go up there up there and then come down here and meet again formally and have the dinner that night

I think the better plan is to have them go here.

Then they can go up the following day and have a chance to see the place and so forth, and I can join them.

I just don't want to have a whole day up there with them.

I just haven't got that much time.

That's my present thought.

We'll start that in the works there, and I'll just very discreetly find out how many people are coming and all that sort of thing.

We can gradually work and do what we can do while we're there.

All right, sir.

All right, thank you very much.

Nixon phone call with Bull on Wage and price controls and Edward Heath

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