{"conversationCode":"035-116","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":116,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-116","startDateTime":"1973-01-09T20:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-09T20:25:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Jan-1973","startTime":"3:24 PM","endDate":"9-Jan-1973","endTime":"3:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Romney, Lenore L.;","description":"On January 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Lenore L. Romney talked on the telephone from 3:24 pm to 3:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-116 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-116\n\nDate: January 9, 1973\nTime: 3:24 pm - 3:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Lenore L. Romney.\n\n[See Conversation No. 401-16A]\n\n       The President's attempt to call George W. Romney\n\n      George Romney’s housing speech [at National Association of Home Builders meeting in\nHouston, January 8, 1973]\n            -The President's congratulations\n            -Subsidies\n            -Necessity","filename":["035-116.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Romney, Lenore L."],"prevCode":"035-115","nextCode":"035-117","transcript":[{"start":0.5,"end":3.17,"text":"Mr. President, I have Mrs. Romney now."},{"start":3.75,"end":3.87,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.89,"end":4.31,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":5.73,"end":6.78,"text":"Mrs. Romney, the President."},{"start":6.96,"end":7.14,"text":"Hello."},{"start":7.38,"end":7.76,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8.74,"end":12.93,"text":"I tried to reach George, and he's on his way back from Texas, but you can pass the message to him."},{"start":12.95,"end":17.72,"text":"I just wanted to tell him that that was a fine, courageous speech he made on housing down there."},{"start":18.17,"end":22.3,"text":"And we had to bite that bullet, and I appreciated his doing it for us."},{"start":22.88,"end":24.14,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":24.18,"end":25.06,"text":"He'll really appreciate it."},{"start":25.08,"end":34.29,"text":"I know that he'd worked on it all day yesterday with, you know, working out the things with the people here, but we had to do subsidies and so forth."},{"start":34.41,"end":39.2,"text":"And I know he became convinced it was the right thing to do, but it was still a darn courageous thing to do."},{"start":39.74,"end":42.66,"text":"And he didn't have to do it, so I appreciated it."},{"start":43.14,"end":43.48,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":43.52,"end":45.44,"text":"I appreciate your calling, and I know he will."},{"start":46.1,"end":46.84,"text":"All right."},{"start":46.87,"end":47.71,"text":"Thanks very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Lenore Romney to convey his personal praise for a recent speech given by her husband, HUD Secretary George Romney, at a National Association of Home Builders conference. Nixon commended Secretary Romney’s courageous decision to address controversial housing subsidy policies, framing the move as a necessary action for the administration. Lenore Romney acknowledged the effort her husband put into the speech and promised to relay the President’s appreciation upon his return.","topics":["George W. Romney","Housing subsidies","Public speaking","HUD","Executive praise"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:51:25.303Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-w-romney","housing-subsidies","public-speaking","hud","executive-praise"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-116.mp3","bytes":1293342,"durationSec":53.76,"bitrate":192461,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-116.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-116","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-116","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}