{"conversationCode":"035-128","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":128,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-128","startDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-11T14:09:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jan-1973","startTime":"9:08 AM","endDate":"11-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:09 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, Peter J.;","description":"On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan talked on the telephone from 9:08 am to 9:09 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-128 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-128\n\nDate: January 11, 1973\nTime: 9:08 am - 9:09 am\n\f                                              -112-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                        (rev. Oct.-07)\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 35-128 (cont’d)\n\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Peter J. Brennan.\n\n[See Conversation No. 838-11A]\n\n       Brennan’s confirmation hearings\n            -Congratulations\n            -Problems\n                  -Washington Post","filename":["035-128.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, Peter J."],"prevCode":"035-127","nextCode":"035-129","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":1.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.22,"end":2.04,"text":"Mr. Peter Brennan, sir."},{"start":2.08,"end":2.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.42,"end":3.74,"text":"Hello."},{"start":4.04,"end":4.46,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":5.29,"end":14.1,"text":"I've not been bothering you because I know you're getting busy and getting ready for your confirmation, but I just wanted to wish you luck and tell you that we're mighty proud of the way you're handling yourself."},{"start":14.12,"end":15.34,"text":"Thank you very much, Mr. President."},{"start":15.36,"end":16.2,"text":"Are you enjoying it?"},{"start":16.84,"end":21.98,"text":"Well, so far, it's because a lot of people are trying to give me a hard time at a time that I like to take on."},{"start":22.06,"end":24.15,"text":"Oh, but aren't your friends there all standing by you?"},{"start":24.25,"end":24.81,"text":"Oh, they're there."},{"start":24.79,"end":29.09,"text":"Well, you know, this is the time when you find out what your friends are and you have a lot of fun."},{"start":29.11,"end":31.98,"text":"Well, now you enjoy it and it'll all come out all right, I can assure you."},{"start":32.02,"end":35.38,"text":"The Washington Post is trying to make it miserable, but that's per usual."},{"start":35.41,"end":37.07,"text":"Listen, if they didn't, I'd fire you."},{"start":38.21,"end":38.69,"text":"Okay."},{"start":38.71,"end":39.31,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":39.33,"end":39.69,"text":"Bye."},{"start":39.93,"end":40.77,"text":"Bye."},{"start":40.81,"end":41.4,"text":"Thank you very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Secretary of Labor-designate Peter J. Brennan to offer encouragement and support regarding his ongoing confirmation process. The two discussed the challenges Brennan faced during the hearings, specifically noting the critical coverage by The Washington Post. Nixon dismissed the negative press as predictable, affirming his confidence in Brennan’s ability to navigate the scrutiny successfully.","topics":["Peter J. Brennan","Confirmation hearings","Department of Labor","The Washington Post","Presidential appointments"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:52:34.017Z"},"topicSlugs":["peter-j-brennan","confirmation-hearings","department-of-labor","the-washington-post","presidential-appointments"],"audioDurationSec":46,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-128.mp3","bytes":1109647,"durationSec":46.09,"bitrate":192591,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-128.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-128","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/35/conversation-035-128","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}