{"conversationCode":"035-138","tapeNumber":35,"conversationNumber":138,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-035-138","startDateTime":"1973-01-11T20:19:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-11T20:20:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jan-1973","startTime":"3:19 PM","endDate":"11-Jan-1973","endTime":"3:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:19 pm to 3:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 035-138 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 35-138\n\nDate: January 11, 1973\nTime: 3:19 pm - 3:20 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 401-29]\n\f                                            -118-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 35-138 (cont’d)\n\n       The President's request for a meeting in the Executive Office Building [EOB]","filename":["035-138.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"035-137","nextCode":"035-139","transcript":[{"start":0.4,"end":2.4,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.42,"end":3.77,"text":"You're free to come to UB now."},{"start":3.88,"end":5.11,"text":"Yeah, I'll be right over."},{"start":5.13,"end":5.64,"text":"Right over."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to join him for an immediate meeting at the Executive Office Building. This brief exchange serves primarily as a logistical coordination for the President to confer with his press secretary in person. No substantive policy matters were discussed during this short transition to an off-site location.","topics":["Executive Office Building","Logistics","Scheduling","Ronald Ziegler"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:53:29.413Z"},"topicSlugs":["executive-office-building","logistics","scheduling","ronald-l-ziegler"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"035-138.mp3","bytes":282088,"durationSec":11.6,"bitrate":194543,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.542Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:41.458Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/035-138.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/035-138","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/035/conversation-035-138","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}