{"conversationCode":"036-046","tapeNumber":36,"conversationNumber":46,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-036-046","startDateTime":"1973-01-22T21:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-22T21:16:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Jan-1973","startTime":"4:15 PM","endDate":"22-Jan-1973","endTime":"4:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On January 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 4:15 pm to 4:16 pm. 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Ziegler.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 400-11E]\n\n       Time story\n            -Communications from White House staff\n\f                                              -33-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 36-46 (cont’d)\n\n                   -The President’s instructions\n             -National Security Council [NSC]\n             -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n                   -Defense Department\n             -State Department\n                   -William P. Rogers\n             -John D. Ehrlichman\n                   -Domestic Council\n                   -Roy L. Ash\n                   -George P. Shultz","filename":["036-046.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"036-045","nextCode":"036-047","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.03,"end":1.31,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":1.73,"end":4.84,"text":"Of course, it is particularly important to get this to the NSC crowd."},{"start":4.88,"end":5.06,"text":"Right."},{"start":5.48,"end":9.38,"text":"And I want you to call Haig and tell him I expect him to enforce it at the Pentagon."},{"start":10.2,"end":10.46,"text":"Okay."},{"start":10.48,"end":17.33,"text":"And then the... And then state, we can't do anything with them."},{"start":17.73,"end":21.5,"text":"The other thing is that... Yeah, you can tell Rogers."},{"start":21.52,"end":21.76,"text":"Tell Rogers."},{"start":21.78,"end":22.44,"text":"I'll call Rogers."},{"start":22.5,"end":27.52,"text":"Tell Rogers that I expect to be an absolute blackout on time because they have not..."},{"start":27.82,"end":29.55,"text":"and they did it with malice, I've found."},{"start":29.95,"end":30.15,"text":"All right."},{"start":30.17,"end":31.19,"text":"They had knowledge beforehand."},{"start":31.89,"end":33.58,"text":"If you were to hit Erling, put him hard on it."},{"start":33.77,"end":34.08,"text":"I will."},{"start":34.12,"end":39.65,"text":"He used to take that whole goddamn domestic council, all the left-wingers in there, and shut their damn mouths."},{"start":40.07,"end":40.47,"text":"None of them."},{"start":41.87,"end":43.05,"text":"Everybody around here shults."},{"start":43.25,"end":43.61,"text":"All right."},{"start":43.63,"end":44.08,"text":"Is that clear?"},{"start":44.26,"end":46.34,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler to enforce a strict information blackout regarding a sensitive timing issue, specifically tasking Ziegler with instructing Alexander Haig to police the Pentagon's compliance. Nixon expresses frustration over perceived malicious leaks from the State Department and demands that Ziegler silence members of the Domestic Council, including staff under George Shultz. 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