{"conversationCode":"036-049","tapeNumber":36,"conversationNumber":49,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-036-049","startDateTime":"1973-01-22T22:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-22T23:19:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Jan-1973","startTime":"5:55 PM","endDate":"22-Jan-1973","endTime":"6:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Tkach, Walter R.;","description":"On January 22, 1973, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:55 pm and 6:19 pm. 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Tkach.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 400-14A]\n\n[The President can be heard in the background.]\n\n       Lyndon B. Johnson’s death\n            -John F. Kennedy\n            -Dwight D. Eisenhower\n            -Condition\n                  -Secret Service report\n            -The President’s telephone call\n                  -Timing\n                  -Claudia A. (“Lady Bird”) Johnson\n            -Statement on Johnson’s death","filename":["036-049.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Tkach, Walter R.","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Tkach, Walter R."],"prevCode":"036-048","nextCode":"036-050","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":11.95,"text":"The rest of them were all practically psychopathic."},{"start":12.14,"end":21.2,"text":"He had real problems."},{"start":22.24,"end":23.3,"text":"He really had problems."},{"start":27.08,"end":28.02,"text":"He had real problems."},{"start":28.42,"end":28.92,"text":"So did Johnson."},{"start":29.23,"end":48.09,"text":"He had a statement for Johnson?"},{"start":49.76,"end":51.12,"text":"Walter, Bob."},{"start":51.28,"end":52.3,"text":"Yes, Bob."},{"start":52.33,"end":53.63,"text":"Have you talked to a doctor down there?"},{"start":53.65,"end":58.53,"text":"Yeah, I talked to a doctor when he was waiting at the International Airport in San Antonio."},{"start":59.66,"end":61.16,"text":"But we got, he hadn't seen him yet."},{"start":61.2,"end":63.86,"text":"We got word directly from the Secret Service who found him."},{"start":63.9,"end":66.68,"text":"They thought he was dead already before they put him on a plane to go to San Antonio."},{"start":66.7,"end":68.15,"text":"And there's no doctor at the ranch?"},{"start":68.61,"end":69.89,"text":"No, there's no doctor at the ranch."},{"start":69.97,"end":72.07,"text":"There's Dr. Carman."},{"start":72.09,"end":72.35,"text":"I see."},{"start":72.37,"end":74.42,"text":"Does Carman think he's dead?"},{"start":75.68,"end":76.9,"text":"Does the Carman think he's dead?"},{"start":77.74,"end":77.82,"text":"Yep."},{"start":77.84,"end":78.42,"text":"He does?"},{"start":78.44,"end":78.52,"text":"Yep."},{"start":79.85,"end":85.86,"text":"They don't want to let it out."},{"start":85.88,"end":89.83,"text":"Well, that's fine."},{"start":89.91,"end":94.28,"text":"But the president needs to know because he's got to call Mrs. Johnson."},{"start":94.39,"end":95.86,"text":"Right, sir."},{"start":96.04,"end":98.58,"text":"I'll try to get him again."},{"start":98.6,"end":98.7,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"H. R. Haldeman and White House physician Dr. Walter R. Tkach discuss the status of Lyndon B. Johnson following reports of his death at his ranch. Tkach confirms that medical personnel and the Secret Service believe Johnson has passed away, despite efforts to keep the information temporarily private. The urgency of the call is driven by President Nixon’s need for verification before he contacts Lady Bird Johnson and issues a formal presidential statement.","topics":["Lyndon B. 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