{"conversationCode":"036-137","tapeNumber":36,"conversationNumber":137,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-036-137","startDateTime":"1973-01-31T02:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-31T02:43:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jan-1973","startTime":"9:42 PM","endDate":"30-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 9:42 pm to 9:43 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 036-137 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 36-137\n\nDate: January 30, 1973\nTime: 9:42 pm - 9:43 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 406-49]\n\n       John C. Stennis shooting\n            -Contact Ronald L. Ziegler\n            -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] involvement\n                  -The President’s role","filename":["036-137.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"036-136","nextCode":"036-138","transcript":[{"start":2.87,"end":5.9,"text":"I'm going to hold a Ziegler, tell him that the president has ordered the FBI."},{"start":7.02,"end":7.57,"text":"You understand?"},{"start":7.85,"end":8.05,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":8.35,"end":8.67,"text":"Okay."},{"start":9.01,"end":9.21,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to contact Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler regarding the shooting of Senator John C. Stennis. Nixon directed that an announcement be made emphasizing that the President had formally ordered an FBI investigation into the incident. This conversation served to establish the administration's public posture and demonstrate the President’s proactive involvement in the federal response.","topics":["John C. Stennis","FBI","Ronald L. Ziegler","Assassination attempt","Law enforcement"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:08:01.284Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-c-stennis","fbi","ronald-l-ziegler","assassination-attempt","law-enforcement"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"036-137.mp3","bytes":383915,"durationSec":15.88,"bitrate":193408,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.788Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/036-137.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/036-137","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/36/conversation-036-137","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}