{"conversationCode":"037-148","tapeNumber":37,"conversationNumber":148,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-037-148","startDateTime":"1973-03-18T15:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-18T15:05:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Mar-1973","startTime":"10:04 AM","endDate":"18-Mar-1973","endTime":"10:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.;","description":"On March 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan talked on the telephone from 10:04 am to 10:05 am. 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(“Jack”) Brennan.\n\n       First Family's visit to Camp David\n               -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n\f                                             - 103 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n              -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II\n              -Hagerstown, Maryland\n              -Helicopter\n              -Departure time\n                     -Manolo Sanchez\n                            -Dogs\n                            -Stenographer","filename":["037-148.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, John V."],"prevCode":"037-147","nextCode":"037-149","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":3.72,"text":"So, sir, well, we've decided to go up there."},{"start":3.74,"end":9.32,"text":"We probably all have to come back tonight, or at least David and Julie will."},{"start":10.21,"end":11.07,"text":"Let me ask you this."},{"start":11.17,"end":12.78,"text":"If they went up, could the..."},{"start":13.68,"end":17.59,"text":"Could the plane that she goes on be up at Frederick's place?"},{"start":17.65,"end":18.17,"text":"Certainly."},{"start":18.19,"end":19.97,"text":"Hagerstown is only a 10-minute helicopter ride."},{"start":20.09,"end":21.27,"text":"It wouldn't be too bad, would it?"},{"start":21.37,"end":21.81,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":21.83,"end":24.54,"text":"Then they wouldn't have such a long ride."},{"start":24.66,"end":26.3,"text":"He has to take the plane back tonight."},{"start":26.32,"end":27.46,"text":"Certainly we'll do that."},{"start":27.5,"end":28.2,"text":"No problem, is it?"},{"start":28.24,"end":29.18,"text":"Not at all, no, sir."},{"start":29.82,"end":33.59,"text":"Okay, Jack, we'll take the helicopter."},{"start":33.69,"end":35.91,"text":"About how long would they like to get it?"},{"start":35.93,"end":37.47,"text":"Well, 15 minutes would get everyone."},{"start":38.51,"end":39.02,"text":"Don't rush them."},{"start":39.13,"end":40.06,"text":"What time have you got now?"},{"start":40.14,"end":41.28,"text":"I have five minutes past 10."},{"start":42.02,"end":43.2,"text":"All right, we'll say at 10."},{"start":43.67,"end":46.79,"text":"We'll say 20 minutes, 5 minutes, 10, 20."},{"start":48.24,"end":49.68,"text":"So it gives them plenty of time."},{"start":49.7,"end":53.96,"text":"And I think we'll take Manolo with us with the dogs."},{"start":53.98,"end":55.35,"text":"There'll be room for everybody."},{"start":55.67,"end":60.03,"text":"There will not be necessary to take a girl this time since we're just going and coming right back."},{"start":60.27,"end":60.61,"text":"Okay."},{"start":60.63,"end":62.6,"text":"So no stenographer."},{"start":62.62,"end":62.72,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":62.74,"end":63.84,"text":"All right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon coordinated with Jack Brennan to finalize travel logistics for a family trip to Camp David involving Julie and David Eisenhower. They discussed transportation arrangements, specifically utilizing a helicopter to commute between Hagerstown and the retreat to minimize travel time for David Eisenhower. 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