{"conversationCode":"037-181","tapeNumber":37,"conversationNumber":181,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-037-181","startDateTime":"1973-03-21T00:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-21T00:59:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Mar-1973","startTime":"7:58 PM","endDate":"20-Mar-1973","endTime":"7:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 7:58 pm to 7:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-181 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 37-181\n\nDate: March 20, 1973\nTime: Between 7:58 pm-7:59 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                            - 125 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n[See Conversation No. 422-12]\n\n       George P. Shultz's schedule\n             -John V. (“Jack”) Brennan\n             -Arrival in Washington, DC","filename":["037-181.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"037-180","nextCode":"037-182","transcript":[{"start":0.93,"end":1.43,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.75,"end":2.89,"text":"I have Mr. Bull for you now."},{"start":2.91,"end":3.15,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.59,"end":4.35,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":4.37,"end":6.43,"text":"I'm trying to get this information from Brennan."},{"start":6.51,"end":7.38,"text":"He may have it already."},{"start":8.32,"end":10.44,"text":"What time Schultz arrives back Thursday?"},{"start":11.45,"end":12.55,"text":"It's Thursday evening."},{"start":12.59,"end":14.95,"text":"I can find out the..."},{"start":14.97,"end":16.51,"text":"I'll tell you, I've got Jack Brennan working on it."},{"start":16.53,"end":21.4,"text":"You forget it, and we'll check in the morning in case he doesn't have it, okay?"},{"start":21.42,"end":22.02,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":22.18,"end":22.3,"text":"Fine."},{"start":22.32,"end":22.61,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":22.63,"end":22.87,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Stephen B. Bull to ascertain the specific arrival time of George P. Shultz in Washington, D.C. on the following Thursday. Bull confirmed he was coordinating with John V. Brennan to retrieve these travel details. Nixon directed Bull to abandon the immediate search and follow up the next morning if the information remained unavailable.","topics":["George P. Shultz","travel schedule","John V. Brennan","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:25:11.556Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-p-shultz","travel-schedule","john-v-brennan","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"037-181.mp3","bytes":210944,"durationSec":30.2,"bitrate":55879,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.129Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/037-181.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/037-181","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/37/conversation-037-181","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}