{"conversationCode":"037-193","tapeNumber":37,"conversationNumber":193,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-037-193","startDateTime":"1973-03-21T21:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-21T21:45:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Mar-1973","startTime":"4:43 PM","endDate":"21-Mar-1973","endTime":"4:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 4:43 pm to 4:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-193 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 37-193\n\nDate: March 21, 1973\nTime: 4:43 pm-4:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 421-16]\n\n       Organization of American States [OAS] meeting\n              -President's schedule\n              -White House Correspondents’ Dinner\n\f                                            - 132 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY","filename":["037-193.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"037-192","nextCode":"037-194","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":2.68,"text":"Mr. Boll on the line, sir."},{"start":2.7,"end":3.24,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.26,"end":7.14,"text":"What was the date of that OAS thing that they saw?"},{"start":7.17,"end":7.65,"text":"I just have mine."},{"start":7.87,"end":13.93,"text":"I recall the original date was April 12th, sir, but I'll have to confirm that."},{"start":13.95,"end":22.89,"text":"I think they said 12th to 14th, actually, as I recall."},{"start":22.91,"end":28.99,"text":"Because the entire cut goes from about the 4th through the 14th, sir."},{"start":30.54,"end":32.88,"text":"I have the White House correspondence on the floor."},{"start":38.03,"end":42.56,"text":"Resurrect it and give you the precise date, but April 12th is the date that comes to mind."},{"start":43.98,"end":46.74,"text":"Well, okay, you can..."},{"start":47,"end":50.07,"text":"I'll..."},{"start":50.09,"end":50.69,"text":"I may consider it."},{"start":50.73,"end":59.52,"text":"I mean, I don't want to just, as I told you, rule that out of hand, but... As a matter of fact, if I were to do it, I think I would do it the..."},{"start":62.94,"end":63.96,"text":"I'll be the 13th."},{"start":66.87,"end":68.29,"text":"Rather than the 12th."},{"start":68.37,"end":72.5,"text":"I'd like to be here the 13th anyway."},{"start":72.52,"end":72.9,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":74.58,"end":75.67,"text":"Okay."},{"start":75.97,"end":77.29,"text":"Any other things you have to ask about?"},{"start":78.87,"end":79.31,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":79.37,"end":79.99,"text":"Not that I have now."},{"start":80.01,"end":80.95,"text":"No other requests today?"},{"start":81.28,"end":82.12,"text":"Okay."},{"start":82.28,"end":82.96,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the scheduling of an upcoming Organization of American States (OAS) meeting in relation to the President's calendar. Nixon sought to clarify the exact dates of the event and expressed a preference for attending on April 13th rather than the 12th. Bull agreed to verify the specific event dates and follow up with the President accordingly.","topics":["Presidential schedule","OAS meeting","White House administration","Event planning"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:26:18.710Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","oas-meeting","white-house-administration","event-planning"],"audioDurationSec":93,"audioFiles":[{"file":"037-193.mp3","bytes":665600,"durationSec":92.64,"bitrate":57478,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.130Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/037-193.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/037-193","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/37/conversation-037-193","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}