{"conversationCode":"038-002","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-002","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T18:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T19:46:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"1:28 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:28 pm and 2:46 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-2\n\nDate: April 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:28 pm and 2:46 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\f                                             -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 38-2 (cont’d)\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.","filename":["038-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-001","nextCode":"038-003","transcript":[{"start":3.76,"end":4.84,"text":"Please."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman. This brief interaction served as the administrative mechanism for the President to initiate a private consultation with his top aide. No substantive policy matters were discussed during this request for a connection.","topics":["H.R. Haldeman","White House operations","Presidential communications","Staff management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:27:40.362Z"},"topicSlugs":["h-r-haldeman","white-house-operations","presidential-communications","staff-management"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-002.mp3","bytes":387072,"durationSec":12.01,"bitrate":257761,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.433Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}