{"conversationCode":"038-003","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-003","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T19:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T19:47:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"2:46 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 2:46 pm to 2:47 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-3\n\nDate: April 13, 1973\nTime: 2:46 pm - 2:47 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     Meeting with President","filename":["038-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"038-002","nextCode":"038-004","transcript":[{"start":1.15,"end":1.77,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.29,"end":3.09,"text":"You would tie it up?"},{"start":3.11,"end":3.4,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":3.9,"end":4.52,"text":"I want to come over."},{"start":4.58,"end":11.71,"text":"Sure."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman briefly discuss scheduling a follow-up meeting later that day. Nixon initiates the conversation to request that Haldeman come to his office to confer in person. The exchange serves primarily as a logistical arrangement for an immediate, private consultation.","topics":["Scheduling","White House operations","Presidential meetings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:27:45.652Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","white-house-operations","presidential-meetings"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-003.mp3","bytes":376832,"durationSec":11.68,"bitrate":258104,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}