{"conversationCode":"038-008","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-008","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T22:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T22:48:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:08 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:08 pm and 5:48 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-8\n\nDate: April 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:08 pm and 5:48 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\f                                               -4-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                              Conversation No. 38-9 (cont’d)","filename":["038-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-007","nextCode":"038-009","transcript":[{"start":3.86,"end":5.45,"text":"Mr. Holden, please."},{"start":5.59,"end":15.31,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a brief telephone call through the White House operator to contact his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman. The exchange served as a routine administrative request to place a call to a specific staff member. No substantive political or policy discussions took place during this brief connection.","topics":["H.R. Haldeman","White House operations","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:28:12.831Z"},"topicSlugs":["h-r-haldeman","white-house-operations","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-008.mp3","bytes":491520,"durationSec":15.27,"bitrate":257565,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.434Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}