{"conversationCode":"038-010","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-010","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T22:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T23:00:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:58 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"6:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:58 pm and 6:00 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-10\n\nDate: April 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:58 pm and 6:00 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Henry A. Kissinger\n\f                                                -6-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 38-11 (cont’d)","filename":["038-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-009","nextCode":"038-011","transcript":[{"start":1.84,"end":2.92,"text":"Doctor Kissinger, please."},{"start":2.94,"end":4.13,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon requested that the White House operator connect him with National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger for a telephone consultation. The call served as a brief administrative bridge to facilitate direct communication between the President and his advisor. No substantive policy discussions occurred during this specific interaction, as it was limited to the initiation of the connection.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","White House communication","National security","Presidential operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:28:24.232Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","white-house-communications","national-security","presidential-operations"],"audioDurationSec":10,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-010.mp3","bytes":339968,"durationSec":10.48,"bitrate":259517,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.434Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/038/conversation-038-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}