{"conversationCode":"038-013","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-013","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T23:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T23:44:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"6:31 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"6:44 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:31 pm and 6:44 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-13\n\nDate: April 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 6:31 pm and 6:44 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman","filename":["038-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-012","nextCode":"038-014","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":10.9,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to connect him with H. R. Haldeman. This brief interaction served as a logistical step to initiate a direct line of communication between the President and his Chief of Staff. No substantive policy matters were discussed during this specific exchange.","topics":["H. R. Haldeman","White House operations","Presidential communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:28:41.882Z"},"topicSlugs":["h-r-haldeman","white-house-operations","presidential-communications"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-013.mp3","bytes":350208,"durationSec":10.85,"bitrate":258138,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}