Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-017

Nixon phone call with Bull on Alexander M. Haig Jr. and Paul W. Keyes

Saturday, April 14, 1973 · 8:47 AM–8:49 AM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation038-017 on Tape 38StartSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 8:47 AMEndSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 8:49 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-017 ↗

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President Nixon coordinates his daily schedule with Stephen B. Bull, specifically setting times for meetings with Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Henry Kissinger, and Paul W. Keyes. Nixon also plans an appearance at Pat Nixon’s garden tour at 2:00 p.m. for photographic purposes. Finally, he requests that Bull locate H. R. Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman to arrange a joint meeting with them later that morning.

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Mr. Paul, sir.
There you are.
So, with regard to, I think, Henry, I want to see Haig sometime today.
Has Henry talked to you about it?
Well, I was just going to check it, sir.
I have a paper on it.
There's no specific time.
Well, the time is open.
The time is open.
I wanted to ask you what time we can see him.
Yes, sir.
So, I want to see him today.
Time is Mrs. Nixon's Garden Tour.
Mrs. Nixon's Garden Tour begins about 1.45, sir.
I think I should be there to pop out.
That would be about 2 o'clock.
Yes, sir.
They're going to walk all the way around the driveway and they end up in the Rose Garden.
I would walk out at that time.
Yes, sir.
All right.
I'll plan to do that at 2 o'clock.
Do you want to say anything or just informally just go out there for the photographs, sir?
photograph, isn't it?
Just the photograph, yeah.
All right, sir.
Fine.
All right.
Would you like to see Haig maybe at around 10 o'clock or so?
See Haig around, shall we say, 11 o'clock.
11 o'clock.
All right, sir.
And see if Paul Keyes can come in around 12.
That's fine.
You have the material that Paul prepared for you?
Yeah, yeah, I want to talk to him about the, I just thinking, I feel I should chat with him.
Yes, sir.
General things and so.
That's fine.
If he could come in around 12 o'clock, we could come in.
In fact, yeah, 12 o'clock would be just fine.
Tell him I have nothing to go into except I just want to talk generally about the programs and so forth.
Okay.
He's just working down the hall from you anyway, I think so.
Oh, is he?
Great.
You remember, about 12.
And make it 11, tell Henry so he can plan it.
All right, sir.
I'll bring in the paper that Henry is right on that.
Right.
All right, fine.
And do you know whether Bob is in yet?
Bob isn't in right this moment, sir.
Well, I went to see him and Ehrlichman.
They wanted to see me this morning.
I don't know.
Maybe they're up there.
I don't know.
See you jointly.
But you can call and see when they can both come over.
See if Ehrlichman's in, see if he can come over.
All right, sir.
Fine.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 8:47 am to 8:49 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-17

Date: April 14, 1973
Time: 8:47 am - 8:49 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See also Conversation No. 428-17]

     President’s schedule
           -Meeting with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Henry A. Kissinger
                 -Paper
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 38-17 (cont’d)

           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s garden tour
                 -Photograph
           -Haig
                 -Timing
                 -Meeting with Paul W. Keyes
                      Programs
           -Kissinger
           -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman

Also recorded on April 14, 1973

  • 038-016 8:44 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:44 am and 8:47 am.
  • 428-015 8:44 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:44 am and 8:47 am.
  • 428-016 8:47 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 8:47 am.
  • 428-017 8:47 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:47 am to 8:49 am.
  • 038-018 8:49 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:49 am and 8:54 am.
  • 428-018 8:49 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:49 am to 8:54 am.
  • 428-019 8:53 AM · 3 hr 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Elliot L. Richardson, Stephen B. Bull, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, John W. Dean, III, Henry A. Kissinger, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:53 am to 12:30 pm.
  • 038-019 8:54 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Elliot L. Richardson talked on the telephone from 8:54 am to 8:56 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-017, April 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-017 (accessed October 12, 2026).