{"conversationCode":"038-020","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-020","startDateTime":"1973-04-14T14:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-14T15:49:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1973","startTime":"9:00 AM","endDate":"14-Apr-1973","endTime":"10:49 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:00 am and 10:49 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-20\n\nDate: April 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:00 am and 10:49 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 428-19B]\n\n     Telephone call to Stephen B. Bull","filename":["038-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-019","nextCode":"038-021","transcript":[{"start":0.4,"end":11.15,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon utilized the White House operator to place an outgoing call to aide Stephen B. Bull. This brief exchange served solely as a logistical connection to facilitate communication between the President and a member of his staff. No substantive policy matters or strategic developments were discussed during the recorded segment.","topics":["Stephen B. Bull","White House operations","Logistics","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:29:21.034Z"},"topicSlugs":["stephen-b-bull","white-house-operations","logistics","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-020.mp3","bytes":360448,"durationSec":11.13,"bitrate":259004,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}