{"conversationCode":"038-024","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":24,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-024","startDateTime":"1973-04-14T15:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-14T16:33:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:50 AM","endDate":"14-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:33 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:33 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-024 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-24\n\nDate: April 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:50 am and 11:33 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Stephen B. Bull\n\nThe President conferred with an unknown person.\n\n[Conversation 38-24A]\n\n[Begin conferral]\n\n     President’s knowledge\n\n[End conferral]","filename":["038-024.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"038-023","nextCode":"038-025","transcript":[{"start":6.17,"end":7.17,"text":"Yes I know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to facilitate a telephone call to his aide, Stephen B. Bull. Following the connection, the President engaged in a brief, confidential conferral with an unidentified individual regarding his personal knowledge of an unspecified matter. The exchange served primarily as a logistical bridge for administrative communication and a subsequent private discussion.","topics":["Stephen B. Bull","White House communications","Presidential scheduling","Internal administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:29:43.560Z"},"topicSlugs":["stephen-b-bull","white-house-communications","presidential-scheduling","internal-administration"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-024.mp3","bytes":417792,"durationSec":12.96,"bitrate":257896,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-024.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-024","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-024","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}