{"conversationCode":"038-028","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-028","startDateTime":"1973-04-14T20:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-14T21:58:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1973","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"14-Apr-1973","endTime":"4:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 4:58 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-28\n\nDate: April 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:55 pm and 4:58 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\f                                             -18-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["038-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-027","nextCode":"038-029","transcript":[{"start":6.65,"end":10.01,"text":"This is Nixon, please."},{"start":10.03,"end":15.78,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a request for the White House operator to connect him with First Lady Thelma C. (\"Pat\") Nixon. The brief interaction serves solely as a procedural step to facilitate a personal telephone call between the President and his wife.","topics":["Pat Nixon","White House operations","Presidential communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:30:05.064Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","white-house-operations","presidential-communications"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-028.mp3","bytes":507904,"durationSec":15.73,"bitrate":258256,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.437Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}