{"conversationCode":"038-033","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-033","startDateTime":"1973-04-15T03:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-15T04:02:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:28 PM","endDate":"14-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:28 pm and 11:02 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-033 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-33\n\nDate: April 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:28 pm and 11:02 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman","filename":["038-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-032","nextCode":"038-034","transcript":[{"start":2.8,"end":4.29,"text":"Mr. Holloman, please."},{"start":4.31,"end":4.49,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman. This brief administrative interaction was initiated to facilitate a direct line of communication with one of the President's closest aides. The call was successfully placed to connect Nixon with Haldeman for a private discussion.","topics":["H. R. Haldeman","White House operations","Presidential communication","Administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:30:34.144Z"},"topicSlugs":["h-r-haldeman","white-house-operations","presidential-communication","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-033.mp3","bytes":276480,"durationSec":8.55,"bitrate":258795,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-033.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-033","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-033","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}