{"conversationCode":"038-035","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-035","startDateTime":"1973-04-15T04:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-15T04:22:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1973","startTime":"11:16 PM","endDate":"14-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:16 pm and 11:22 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-35\n\nDate: April 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 11:16 pm and 11:22 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator\n\n     Telephone call to Henry A. Kissinger","filename":["038-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-034","nextCode":"038-036","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":4.05,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":4.07,"end":5.34,"text":"Uh, Dr. Kissinger, please."},{"start":5.36,"end":6.16,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an urgent call to National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger. This brief exchange served as a logistical bridge to facilitate a direct communication channel between the President and his advisor during a time of high-level administrative activity. No substantive policy discussion occurred during this interaction, as it was strictly focused on establishing the connection.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","White House communications","Presidential communication","National Security"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:30:46.000Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","white-house-communications","presidential-communication","national-security"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-035.mp3","bytes":401408,"durationSec":12.44,"bitrate":258140,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}