{"conversationCode":"038-044","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":44,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-044","startDateTime":"1973-04-15T20:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-15T20:48:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1973","startTime":"3:44 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1973","endTime":"3:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:44 pm and 3:48 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-044 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-44\n\nDate: April 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:44 pm and 3:48 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Richard G. Kleindienst\n\f                                              -27-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["038-044.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-043","nextCode":"038-045","transcript":[{"start":5.01,"end":7.2,"text":"Attorney General Cranby's place."},{"start":7.22,"end":14.8,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an outgoing telephone call to Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst. The brief interaction served as a logistical step to initiate a direct conversation between the President and the Attorney General regarding administrative or legal matters. No further policy discussions or substantive decisions were captured during this initial exchange.","topics":["Richard G. Kleindienst","White House operations","Executive communication","Attorney General"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:31:38.213Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-g-kleindienst","white-house-operations","executive-communication","attorney-general"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-044.mp3","bytes":477184,"durationSec":14.76,"bitrate":258636,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.439Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-044.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-044","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-044","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}