{"conversationCode":"038-054","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":54,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-054","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T01:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T01:25:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1973","startTime":"8:18 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On April 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:18 pm and 8:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-054 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-54\n\nDate: April 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:18 pm and 8:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\f                                               -32-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                      (rev. January-2011)\n\n                                                                Conversation No. 38-54 (cont’d)\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to an unknown person [Henry E. Petersen ?]\n\nThe President conferred with an unknown person.\n\n[Begin conferral]\n\n     Plans\n\n[End conferral]","filename":["038-054.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"038-053","nextCode":"038-055","transcript":[{"start":5.43,"end":13.06,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon utilized the White House telephone system to coordinate a brief, private communication with an unidentified individual, potentially Assistant Attorney General Henry E. Petersen. The discussion focused primarily on the strategic development of plans regarding ongoing administrative or legal matters. No further substantive details regarding the conversation's specific outcomes or directives are documented.","topics":["Strategic planning","White House operations","Henry E. Petersen","Executive communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:32:33.958Z"},"topicSlugs":["strategic-planning","white-house-operations","henry-e-petersen","executive-communication"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-054.mp3","bytes":419840,"durationSec":13.01,"bitrate":258098,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-054.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-054","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-054","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}