{"conversationCode":"038-057","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":57,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-057","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T02:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T02:39:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1973","startTime":"9:17 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1973","endTime":"9:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:17 pm and 9:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-057 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-57\n\nDate: April 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:17 pm and 9:39 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator. John D. Ehrlichman [?] can be heard in\nthe background.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared Richard Nixon’s Special\nWhite House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of\nthe House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of Recorded\nPresidential Conversations (SRPC), page 770 (1). Please refer to the logging below.]\n\n     Henry E. Peterson\n          Consultation\n          Telephone call to Petersen\n\f                                               -34-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["038-057.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"038-056","nextCode":"038-058","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":5.1,"text":"Mr. Peterson, please."},{"start":5.12,"end":7.17,"text":"You know, the Justice Department."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a call to connect with Assistant Attorney General Henry E. Petersen while John D. Ehrlichman is present. The primary purpose of the conversation is to facilitate direct communication with the Justice Department regarding the ongoing Watergate investigation. No further substantive discussion occurs during this short bridge call beyond the request for the operator to connect to Petersen.","topics":["Watergate scandal","Henry E. Petersen","Department of Justice","John D. Ehrlichman","Executive communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:32:51.158Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate-scandal","henry-e-petersen","department-of-justice","john-d-ehrlichman","executive-communication"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-057.mp3","bytes":460800,"durationSec":14.29,"bitrate":257910,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.441Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-057.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-057","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-057","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}