Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 038-062
Date: Sunday, April 15, 1973 at 10:16 PM
Participants: Ehrlichman, John D.; Gray, L[ouis] Patrick, III
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-062

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[0:00] Hello.
[0:01] Mr. Gray.
[0:01] Thank you.
[0:02] John Ehrlichman again.
[0:04] I've been giving some thought to our conversation.
[0:07] I just don't think there's any way, anything but level on this if you're asked.
[0:17] There's just too many collateral facts.
[0:20] If it's the fact that that was just full of stuff irrelevant to any business of the Bureau, why, you know, that's reason enough.
[0:30] Well, that's what I was told, but I didn't look at it, Jeff.
[0:32] Right.
[0:35] I just don't see how you get yourself crossways in the testimony in this thing for fear you get caught up in it.
[0:47] I just encourage you to just state the facts.
[0:50] I stated, uh, straight away, you know, that he, uh, at no time did he indicate that this was from Hunt's material.
[1:02] Yeah.
[1:02] Oh, I see.
[1:03] I see.
[1:03] He didn't know where it came from.
[1:04] No.
[1:05] I see.
[1:07] Yeah.
[1:07] Uh, just that it was papers that he wanted to turn over to you.
[1:11] Yeah.
[1:12] I see.
[1:13] Yeah.
[1:13] That they were purely, uh, political things and had no bearing on the subject at all.
[1:19] Mm-hmm.
[1:20] I think if I were you, I'd stick to that.
[1:25] I obviously can't tell you what to do, but I was a little troubled by our conversation, and I didn't pick it up fast enough when you said that.
[1:34] So I just thought I'd better call you back.
[1:36] Yeah, I don't know all the other collaterals there are that are involved in this.
[1:42] Well, it's moving so fast, I'm frank to confess I don't either.
[1:48] hesitate to get crosswise on something of that kind.
[1:53] I'll talk to you later.
[1:54] Okay.
[1:54] Bye, Pat.