{"conversationCode":"038-063","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":63,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-063","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T03:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T04:15:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:16 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:16 pm and 11:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-063 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-63\n\nDate: April 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:16 pm and 11:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared Richard Nixon’s Special\nWhite House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of\nthe House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of Recorded\nPresidential Conversations (SRPC), page 772 (1). Please refer to the logging below.]\n\n     Telephone call to Henry E. Petersen","filename":["038-063.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-062","nextCode":"038-064","transcript":[{"start":7.12,"end":7.62,"text":"please."},{"start":8.96,"end":9.55,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":10.47,"end":14.68,"text":"Would you get me Mr. Henry Peterson of the Justice Department Assistant?"},{"start":14.74,"end":15.48,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":15.87,"end":16.27,"text":"Right, sir."},{"start":16.29,"end":19.14,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an urgent call to Assistant Attorney General Henry E. Petersen. This interaction served as the administrative precursor to a direct consultation between the President and the Department of Justice official. The call highlights the President's ongoing communication with Petersen regarding the rapidly evolving Watergate investigation.","topics":["Henry E. Petersen","Watergate investigation","Department of Justice","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:33:26.141Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-e-petersen","watergate-investigation","department-of-justice","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":24,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-063.mp3","bytes":772096,"durationSec":24,"bitrate":257365,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-063.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-063","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-063","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}