{"conversationCode":"038-067","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":67,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-067","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T20:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T20:26:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"3:26 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:25 pm to 3:26 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-067 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-67\n\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: 3:25 pm - 3:26 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler\n\n[See also Conversation No. 427-5]\n\n     Progress\n          Ziegler’s schedule","filename":["038-067.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"038-066","nextCode":"038-068","transcript":[{"start":0.52,"end":0.86,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.12,"end":1.75,"text":"Yes, sir, Mr. President."},{"start":1.76,"end":3.17,"text":"Have you made any progress on that thing?"},{"start":3.43,"end":4.71,"text":"How's it stand?"},{"start":4.94,"end":11.66,"text":"We'll be there in five minutes."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief telephone conversation to inquire about the status of an undisclosed, pending matter. Ziegler informed the President that he was currently in transit and would arrive at his location within five minutes to provide a briefing. The exchange served primarily as a logistical check-in to coordinate a forthcoming update on an ongoing issue.","topics":["White House administration","Logistics","Presidential scheduling","Press relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:33:49.018Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","logistics","presidential-scheduling","press-relations"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-067.mp3","bytes":376832,"durationSec":11.64,"bitrate":258991,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-067.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-067","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-067","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}