{"conversationCode":"038-072","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":72,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-072","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T21:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T22:45:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"4:55 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-072 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-72\n\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 427-12A]\n\n       Telephone call to Spiro T. Agnew from William P. Rogers\n\f                                             -41-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["038-072.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-071","nextCode":"038-073","transcript":[{"start":3.79,"end":20.91,"text":"The Vice President, Mr. Secretary Rogers, is calling."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed the White House operator to facilitate a telephone connection between Vice President Spiro T. Agnew and Secretary of State William P. Rogers. This administrative interaction served to bridge communication between the two high-ranking officials. No further policy discussions were recorded during this brief exchange.","topics":["Spiro T. Agnew","William P. Rogers","Communication","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:34:15.951Z"},"topicSlugs":["spiro-t-agnew","william-p-rogers","communication","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-072.mp3","bytes":849920,"durationSec":26.41,"bitrate":257421,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.443Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-072.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-072","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-072","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}