{"conversationCode":"038-073","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":73,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-073","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T21:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T22:45:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"4:55 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Rogers, William P.; Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President);","description":"On April 16, 1973, William P. Rogers and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-073 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-73\n\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nWilliam P. Rogers talked with Spiro T. Agnew.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 427-12B]\n\n     Rogers’s schedule\n          -Meeting with President\n                -Sequoia\n          -Changes\n                Adele (Langston) Rogers","filename":["038-073.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Rogers, William P.","Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President)"],"prevCode":"038-072","nextCode":"038-074","transcript":[{"start":0.5,"end":1.42,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.72,"end":2.5,"text":"Secretary Rogers?"},{"start":2.52,"end":2.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.73,"end":4.57,"text":"One moment."},{"start":5.11,"end":5.41,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":5.43,"end":6.01,"text":"Secretary Rogers?"},{"start":6.03,"end":6.19,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.31,"end":7.23,"text":"How are you today?"},{"start":7.25,"end":7.97,"text":"Fine, thank you."},{"start":8.01,"end":8.11,"text":"Good."},{"start":8.13,"end":8.79,"text":"Just one moment, please."},{"start":13.62,"end":14.32,"text":"Hello, Ted."},{"start":14.38,"end":15.56,"text":"Hi, Bill."},{"start":15.58,"end":16.46,"text":"I'm talking to the president."},{"start":16.52,"end":21.55,"text":"He asked me to go out on the Sequoia with him tonight, and he's got a couple of things he wants to talk over that he thinks are important."},{"start":23.43,"end":26.15,"text":"I'd be like hell to disappoint you, but I think maybe I should do that."},{"start":26.69,"end":28.73,"text":"Well, of course, you have to go with the president."},{"start":28.75,"end":30.27,"text":"There's no question about that."},{"start":30.69,"end":36.18,"text":"Can we maybe have a golf game or something while the freak is here?"},{"start":36.2,"end":38.15,"text":"Well, it's not that important."},{"start":38.16,"end":39.97,"text":"I mean, we can do it again another time."},{"start":41.45,"end":43.81,"text":"So that's perfectly all right."},{"start":43.83,"end":44.88,"text":"I mean, I understand that."},{"start":45.32,"end":48.82,"text":"They all can go if you want or not, however you want to work it."},{"start":49.82,"end":51.43,"text":"We'll be glad to have her."},{"start":51.45,"end":53.19,"text":"I'll call her and tell her to go."},{"start":53.21,"end":53.31,"text":"Okay."},{"start":53.33,"end":53.73,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":53.75,"end":54.15,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":54.19,"end":54.39,"text":"Bye."},{"start":54.83,"end":54.91,"text":"Bye."},{"start":60.48,"end":60.87,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Secretary of State William P. Rogers and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew spoke to coordinate scheduling adjustments regarding a planned meeting or social engagement. Rogers notified the Vice President that he had to cancel their previous plans due to a last-minute request from President Nixon to join him for a discussion aboard the presidential yacht, the Sequoia. The two agreed to postpone their interaction and discussed the inclusion of Adele Rogers in the rescheduled arrangements.","topics":["White House scheduling","Executive communication","William P. Rogers","Spiro T. Agnew","Sequoia yacht"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:34:21.478Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-scheduling","executive-communication","william-p-rogers","spiro-t-agnew","sequoia-yacht"],"audioDurationSec":61,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-073.mp3","bytes":1949696,"durationSec":60.83,"bitrate":256426,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-073.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-073","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-073","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}