{"conversationCode":"038-074","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":74,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-074","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T21:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T23:01:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"4:55 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"6:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-074 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-74\n\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Adele (Langston) Rogers from William P. Rogers","filename":["038-074.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-073","nextCode":"038-075","transcript":[{"start":1.9,"end":2.63,"text":"Operator."},{"start":2.65,"end":3.13,"text":"Mrs. Rogers."},{"start":4.04,"end":11.86,"text":"Mrs. Rogers for the secretary."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed the White House operator to place a telephone call to Adele Rogers, the wife of Secretary of State William P. Rogers. This brief administrative interaction served as a communication relay to facilitate a personal or professional connection between the Secretary and his spouse. No further policy or substantive matters were discussed during this connection attempt.","topics":["William P. Rogers","Adele Rogers","White House operations","Communication relay"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:34:27.389Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-p-rogers","adele-rogers","white-house-operations","communication-relay"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-074.mp3","bytes":380928,"durationSec":11.83,"bitrate":257673,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-074.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-074","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-074","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}