{"conversationCode":"038-078","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":78,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-078","startDateTime":"1973-04-17T01:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-17T01:45:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"8:45 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On April 16, 1973, White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 8:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-078 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-78\n\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: 8:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\f                                              -43-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 38-78 (cont’d)\n\n     John D. Ehrlichman’s location\n\n[There is no Conversation No. 38-79]","filename":["038-078.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"038-077","nextCode":"038-080","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":1.4,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.42,"end":2.36,"text":"Mr. President..."},{"start":2.4,"end":3.52,"text":"He's on page two?"},{"start":3.54,"end":5.53,"text":"No, he's out picking up his son."},{"start":5.57,"end":7.66,"text":"He expected back in a few minutes."},{"start":8.36,"end":9.94,"text":"Okay, give me a call when I get back."},{"start":9.96,"end":10.99,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to determine the whereabouts of John D. Ehrlichman. Upon learning that Ehrlichman was unavailable while picking up his son, Nixon instructed the operator to notify him once Ehrlichman returned. This brief exchange highlights the President's ongoing efforts to maintain communication with his inner circle during the unfolding Watergate scandal.","topics":["John D. Ehrlichman","White House communications","Watergate scandal","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:34:49.364Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-d-ehrlichman","white-house-communications","watergate-scandal","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-078.mp3","bytes":548864,"durationSec":17.01,"bitrate":258086,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.444Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-078.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-078","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-078","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}