{"conversationCode":"038-085","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":85,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-085","startDateTime":"1973-04-17T19:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-17T19:39:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Apr-1973","startTime":"2:30 PM","endDate":"17-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:30 pm and 2:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-085 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-85\n\nDate: April 17, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:30 pm and 2:39 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 898-18]\n\n     Telephone call to John D. Ehrlichman","filename":["038-085.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-084","nextCode":"038-086","transcript":[{"start":4.25,"end":12.57,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a brief administrative request to the White House operator to place a telephone call to his domestic advisor, John D. Ehrlichman. This interaction functioned solely as a logistical step to facilitate direct communication between the President and a key staff member during a period of high-level activity. No substantive policy matters or political strategies were discussed during this specific exchange.","topics":["John D. Ehrlichman","Telephone logistics","White House operations","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:35:24.045Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-d-ehrlichman","telephone-logistics","white-house-operations","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-085.mp3","bytes":407552,"durationSec":12.61,"bitrate":258489,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-085.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-085","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-085","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}