{"conversationCode":"038-103","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":103,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-103","startDateTime":"1973-04-18T19:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-18T19:58:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Apr-1973","startTime":"2:57 PM","endDate":"18-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On April 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 2:57 pm to 2:58 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon\n                   -Trip to Camp David\n                         -Economic Message\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 5 s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\f                                                       -61-\n\n                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                           Conversation No. 38-103 (cont’d)\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s Schedule\n\n       President’s schedule\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************","filename":["038-103.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"038-102","nextCode":"038-104","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":4.81,"text":"Mr. President, I have Julie now."},{"start":4.83,"end":5.05,"text":"Oh, fine."},{"start":5.37,"end":5.81,"text":"There you are."},{"start":5.83,"end":6.23,"text":"Hello, Julie."},{"start":6.47,"end":7.19,"text":"Daddy, hi."},{"start":7.21,"end":8.11,"text":"Hi, honey."},{"start":8.13,"end":8.71,"text":"You have to go."},{"start":9.03,"end":10.24,"text":"Well, it's all right."},{"start":10.4,"end":12.06,"text":"I got a minute, sweetie."},{"start":12.24,"end":12.58,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":12.6,"end":15.63,"text":"I just wanted to call and see when we were going down to Key Biscayne."},{"start":15.85,"end":20.26,"text":"Honey, we're trying to work it out so we go Friday afternoon if we can, about 3 o'clock."},{"start":20.28,"end":20.54,"text":"At all?"},{"start":22.51,"end":25.38,"text":"I think you should."},{"start":25.46,"end":30.56,"text":"I may go up to Camp David to work on the economic message, which I'm working on."},{"start":30.58,"end":31.08,"text":"Sounds really good."},{"start":41.07,"end":42.09,"text":"Good."},{"start":42.11,"end":43.41,"text":"I just wanted to check with you."},{"start":43.44,"end":44.72,"text":"Well, that's great."},{"start":44.74,"end":47.02,"text":"I saw your mommy has a terribly busy schedule today."},{"start":47.5,"end":50.73,"text":"But you just go ahead and have dinner and maybe see a movie and so forth."},{"start":50.75,"end":51.07,"text":"Good."},{"start":51.09,"end":53.47,"text":"I may go to camp, but if not, I'll do it here."},{"start":53.63,"end":53.99,"text":"Fair enough?"},{"start":54.19,"end":55.21,"text":"Very good, Daddy."},{"start":55.23,"end":55.95,"text":"All right, sweetie."},{"start":55.99,"end":56.26,"text":"Bye."},{"start":56.64,"end":56.76,"text":"Bye."},{"start":57.1,"end":57.36,"text":"Bye."},{"start":57.92,"end":65.07,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, coordinate travel plans and discuss their upcoming personal schedules. Nixon outlines his intent to travel to Key Biscayne on Friday afternoon and mentions a potential trip to Camp David to focus on drafting an economic message. He also encourages Julie to spend time with her mother, Pat Nixon, despite the First Lady's busy agenda.","topics":["Key Biscayne","Camp David","Economic policy","Pat Nixon","Family scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:37:03.886Z"},"topicSlugs":["key-biscayne","camp-david","economic-policy","pat-nixon","family-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":65,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-103.mp3","bytes":2084864,"durationSec":65.05,"bitrate":256388,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.447Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-103.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-103","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-103","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}