{"conversationCode":"038-104","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":104,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-104","startDateTime":"1973-04-18T21:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-18T21:50:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Apr-1973","startTime":"4:06 PM","endDate":"18-Apr-1973","endTime":"4:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)]; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On April 18, 1973, unknown person(s) and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:06 pm and 4:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-104 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-104\n\nDate: April 18, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:06 pm and 4:50 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nAn unknown woman talked with the President. An unknown man can be heard in the\nbackground.\n\n       Invitation to energy briefing\n             -Stephen B. Bull","filename":["038-104.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"038-103","nextCode":"038-105","transcript":[{"start":2.46,"end":21.04,"text":"uh yes i'm trying to find out who issued the invitations to attend the uh briefing tomorrow at 11 a.m the energy briefing uh"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"An unidentified caller consults President Nixon regarding the origin of invitations for an upcoming energy briefing scheduled for the following morning. The President discusses the scheduling of this event, which was coordinated by aide Stephen B. Bull. The exchange serves to clarify logistical oversight concerning high-level administration briefings during this period.","topics":["Energy policy","White House administration","Scheduling","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:37:09.337Z"},"topicSlugs":["energy-policy","white-house-administration","scheduling","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-104.mp3","bytes":833536,"durationSec":25.95,"bitrate":256999,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-104.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-104","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-104","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}