{"conversationCode":"038-105","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":105,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-105","startDateTime":"1973-04-19T14:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-19T17:29:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1973","startTime":"9:36 AM","endDate":"19-Apr-1973","endTime":"12:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:36 am and 12:29 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-105 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-105\n\nDate: April 19, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:36 am and 12:29 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator. John D. Ehrlichman can be heard in the\nbackground.\n\n       Telephone call\n            -Apology\n\f                                             -62-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["038-105.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"038-104","nextCode":"038-106","transcript":[{"start":0.49,"end":3.57,"text":"Operator."},{"start":4.39,"end":6.65,"text":"I'm sorry, operator."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman engaged in a brief telephone communication facilitated by a White House operator. The interaction primarily consisted of an apology regarding the handling of the call connection. No substantive policy matters or strategic developments were recorded during this brief exchange.","topics":["White House communication","John Ehrlichman","Telephone protocol","Administration logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:37:14.811Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-communication","john-ehrlichman","telephone-protocol","administration-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-105.mp3","bytes":403456,"durationSec":12.52,"bitrate":257799,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.447Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-105.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-105","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-105","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}